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    Default Sculti's Necrolock specc (Version 1.3)

    - i've always wanted a thread like this!
    - this is not supposed to be any kind of epeen-contest
    - this most certainly isnt my specc, i have NOT invented it, its just the way i play it
    - its the result of gathering information on this forum + a lot of testing i did myself
    - id like people to discuss/compare/share their speccs/rotations/experience in here

    specc
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    - i didnt get Neddra's Torture cause we have an Inqihybrid keeping up the 7% magicdebuff (specced Souldrain)
    - i didnt get Neddra's Grasp cause it needs to procc 4 times to be worth more than a Voidbolt and it messes up my rotation anyways
    - i did specc Plague Bolt tho i rarely use it, those points could be spent in more pet-hps, i dont think theyre necessary
    - i did get longer Necrosis, its a DPS gain on Necrosis (its not 60%, still worth it) but a DPS loss for the petstyle Blood Spike (wont get 100% crit 6/18 seconds) + it works with my rotation
    - 3/5 opportunity is just for casual Plague Bolts, its not necessary, i just wanted more passive dotdmg

    i tested all spells i could use with this specc to get their actual dps compared to others available with my current gear
    Dark Touch > Necrosis > Lifeleech > Soulpurge > Plague Bolt (5 stacks on the mob, with opportunity procc) > Draining Bolt > Grave Rot > Voidbolt > Searing Vitality
    - Soulpurge's DPS beats Voidbolt even if it creates a double Lifeleechtick (it beats Plague Bolt in any case), so it is worth it to soulpurge as much as possible
    - this order shouldnt change in a raid cause the first 4 are considered dots anyways
    - its consistent with my parse

    basicly my rotation varies from other necrolock guides (like bluedots) by allowing maximum soulpurge-uptime
    it differs from other guides which say Soulpurge needs 3 ticks to be max dps, after that you could use other stuff
    + i kinda like running rotations so i can concentrate on other stuff than my dottimers

    keep up Zealotpet + Warlock Armor

    the rotation is:
    Pillaging Stone*5 -> Searing Vitality -> Looming Demise

    Spikerotation:
    Exhume/Empty the Crypts/Lich Form/Sacrifice Life: Damage -> Necrosis -> Dark Touch -> Grave Rot -> Voidbolt -> *Fillerspam until Necrosis runs out -> Necrosis -> Dark Touch -> Grave Rot -> Voidbolt -> Voidbolt (your Lich Form should be at 1-2 secs now) -> Soulpurge 8 secs -> Voidbolt

    Basic Rotation:
    Necrosis -> Dark Touch -> Grave Rot -> *Filler -> Voidbolt -> Soulpurge 8 secs -> Voidbolt -> *Filler -> Repeat

    *Filler: Pillaging Stone (if its close to running out) > Looming Demise (if its close to running out) > Plague Bolt (if you got an opportunity procc) > Draining Bolt > Voidbolt

    - you should only use 1 Filler per rotation, if you have to use 2 cancel your Soulpurge after 7 seconds
    - its a DPS loss to use more than one Filler, it doesnt matter whether you have an opportunity proccs or anything, soulpurge beats every spell and should have its 8 secs uptime
    - use Lifeleech as your first Filler after that it should never run out, if it does use another Filler to refresh it
    - use Empty the Crypts as soon as its off-CD, use fillerspells instead of Soulpurge while EtC is up
    - use Lich Form/Sacrifice Life: Damage at the beginning of the basic rotation, you gain a whole rotation with both buffs + a 2nd rotation with lichform
    - only one necro has to use Looming Demise, so check if other necros are running a similar specc, both pets profit from the debuff; it also doesnt get overwritten by archonts 31 talent anymore

    it is essential to have a macro for EVERY abilitiy you use!
    #show XYZ
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast XYZ
    petcast Blood Spike
    petcast Soul Rend
    petcast Jagged Wound

    - basicly you spam the button with the next ability youre going to use
    - this is required to force the pet to use its styles
    - i have an extra macro with petcasts only i spam while i soulpurge

    stats unbuffed pre pillaging
    1134 SP, 693 SC, Adorned Shadeshard Essence, Lost Favor (found this to be the best trinket for necrolock since it can procc on every lifeleech tick, every soulpurgetick + draining bolt), mix t2/t3, neither necrotic rage nor warlock/necro greater
    used only Warlock Armor, completely alone on Boss Practise Dummy, parsed until CDs are up again
    pretty average critrating on all spells - im at 32,79 critchance with Pillaging

    its a german parse but i used paint skills
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    i dont use this spec in current raids
    either sc/ele or domi/necro
    just wanna know how other necrolocks are running
    and if domi/necro gets fixed/nerfed this might be the highest single target dps since it scales pretty well with raidbuffs
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    Nice post. The build I use is similar, with some exceptions.

    35 Warlock / 31 Necromancer / 0 Archon

    - Neddra's Torture: For when we don't have any Inquisitor with Clinging Spirit specced.

    - Neddra's Essence / Shadow Life / Feign Death: While they don't increase DPS, they are excellent utility for 1 point each. They have saved me countless times, in both T2 runs and Raids, allowing me to get back to fights when I should have died; finishing off a boss that is almost dead and I'm the only one left alive; or simply saving time for the party / raid by enabling me to quickly get everyone up (quick switch to chloro).

    - Neddra's Grasp: I mainly use it (with Dark Touch + Radiate) on AEO pulls, where NG's starts to make a nice difference.
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    Interesting I don't see Life Leech in your rotation even once...
    You should give the power to one who doesn't want to use it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacifyer View Post
    Interesting I don't see Life Leech in your rotation even once...
    Huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by sculti View Post
    - use Lifeleech as your first Filler after that it should never run out, if it does use another Filler to refresh it
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    is it worth getting Deathtouched Soulstone for this build ?


    probably gona try getting one and test once i save up enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by sculti View Post
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    Dark Touch > Necrosis > Lifeleech > Soulpurge > Plague Bolt (5 stacks on the mob, with opportunity procc) > Draining Bolt > Grave Rot > Voidbolt > Searing Vitality
    - Soulpurge's DPS beats Voidbolt even if it creates a double Lifeleechtick (it beats Plague Bolt in any case), so it is worth it to soulpurge as much as possible
    - this order shouldnt change in a raid cause the first 4 are considered dots anyways
    - its consistent with my parse

    basicly my rotation varies from other necrolock guides (like bluedots) by allowing maximum soulpurge-uptime
    it differs from other guides which say Soulpurge needs 3 ticks to be max dps, after that you could use other stuff
    + i kinda like running rotations so i can concentrate on other stuff than my dottimers

    keep up Zealotpet + Warlock Armor

    the rotation is:
    Pillaging Stone*5 -> Searing Vitality -> Looming Demise

    Spikerotation:
    Exhume/Empty the Crypts/Lich Form/Sacrifice Life: Damage -> Necrosis -> Dark Touch -> Grave Rot -> Voidbolt -> *Fillerspam until Necrosis runs out -> Necrosis -> Dark Touch -> Grave Rot -> Voidbolt -> Voidbolt (your Lich Form should be at 1-2 secs now) -> Soulpurge 8 secs -> Voidbolt

    Basic Rotation:
    Necrosis -> Dark Touch -> Grave Rot -> *Filler -> Voidbolt -> Soulpurge 8 secs -> Voidbolt -> *Filler -> Repeat

    *Filler: Pillaging Stone (if its close to running out) > Looming Demise (if its close to running out) > Plague Bolt (if you got an opportunity procc) > Draining Bolt > Voidbolt

    - you should only use 1 Filler per rotation, if you have to use 2 cancel your Soulpurge after 7 seconds
    - its a DPS loss to use more than one Filler, it doesnt matter whether you have an opportunity proccs or anything, soulpurge beats every spell and should have its 8 secs uptime
    - use Lifeleech as your first Filler after that it should never run out, if it does use another Filler to refresh it
    - use Empty the Crypts as soon as its off-CD, use fillerspells instead of Soulpurge while EtC is up
    - use Lich Form/Sacrifice Life: Damage at the beginning of the basic rotation, you gain a whole rotation with both buffs + a 2nd rotation with lichform
    - only one necro has to use Looming Demise, so check if other necros are running a similar specc, both pets profit from the debuff; it also doesnt get overwritten by archonts 31 talent anymore
    so u use plague bolt or void bolt in your rotation?
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    The rotations shown here are not min/max and seem to be the result of tooltip testing rather than actual use. Necro/Lock DPS is dependent on timing. You cannot waste global cooldowns. You also cannot underestimate how valuable Opportunity is at 5/5 points. Soul Purge should only be used while all DoTs are active and have 8 seconds or more left.

    That is just off the top of my head after skimming but there were many more things that stuck out to me as wrong and ineffective especially concerning the rotations.

    An example is using Lich Exhume and then ETC rather than whatever it is you posted and rather than throwing away your Sac:Life damage during Lich (they don't stack right) you should add it to the voidbolt pet attack macro. You need to drop the pets near melee range for them to be most effective so it is best to click cooldowns on the way in then plant pets and start refreshing DoTs on the way out to both ensure the pets engage and to keep from wasting Global Cooldowns on footsteps rather than spell casts. Not buffing pet hitpoints in raid where pets take massive AoE hits all the time is also not as smart as it might seem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentr View Post
    so u use plague bolt or void bolt in your rotation?

    Basic Rotation:
    Necrosis -> Dark Touch -> Grave Rot -> *Filler -> Voidbolt -> Soulpurge 8 secs -> Voidbolt -> *Filler -> Repeat

    *Filler: Pillaging Stone (if its close to running out) > Looming Demise (if its close to running out) > Plague Bolt (if you got an opportunity procc) > Draining Bolt > Voidbolt


    thats the basic rotation, it has 2 times voidbolt + maybe a plague bolt in a fillerslot

    - i dont see how i waste any GCDs
    - this rotation only soulpurges while all dots are 8 secs+
    - i dont see why 5/5 opportunity is worth it, pls explain ;)
    - Sac:Life Damage+Lichform do stack
    - the corpses dont gain the lichform buff if theyre still in the summoning process (which they are if you use my rotation exhume->ETC->lich), thats a good find
    would edit it in the opening post, but meh this sucky forum
    they will get it if you use exhume->ETC->anything->lich
    - maybe i shouldve added that you need to be in meleerange for max ETC-dps
    - i do use a dot after ETC to make sure the pets engage fast and that they engage the right target
    - as of now there is no encounter which requires more pet-hps (except dark foci i think, theyre bugged anyways, the ghosts-aoe-dmg doesnt get lowered by any your-pet-takes-less-aoe-dmg-for-each-point-in-the-Xsoul, just dont use a specc there which requires on pet dps)
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