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    Default Petition for a "State Of The Mage" post from devs

    I'd like to know what the devs think about Mages in 1.3 and what the devs plan to do to Mages in future patches.

    To keep things simple, please reply with something like "+1 /10chars" if you would also like to see this kind of post by the devs. If you'd like to expand on any particular discontent or enjoyment, there are lots of other threads going.
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    I have a strong feeling that they will not admit to over nerfing the pyro mage....

    There is no way that a 51 point talent should be roughly equal in damage to a spell that we get without even needing to spend 1 point in Pyro.

    It really makes me wonder what kind of people are testing this kind of stuff, if they tested it at all.

    As far as I'm concerned, Trion earned it's first strike with me. I would have been fine with toning them down a little, but Pyros are a joke now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyrd View Post
    I'd like to know what the devs think about Mages in 1.3 and what the devs plan to do to Mages in future patches.
    Dev response: Sucks to be you



    Honestly, it has been a week, if they were going to respond to the discontent, they would have done so by now. For now, they are obviously happy with Mages being behind the other classes in dps, and are happy with the effect of the Chloro nerfs.

    Even if they were to give us a "State of the Mage" statement, it would mean nothing. Remember, Gresh indicated about a month ago that they were happy with where Mages were. Then, just a few weeks later, they nerf our dps and completely rework Chloro.


    (The only response I expect is a nerf to the zoomancer build.)
    Last edited by Brad1959; 06-29-2011 at 05:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad1959 View Post
    Remember, Gresh indicated about a month ago that they were happy with where Mages were. Then, just a few weeks later, they nerf our dps and completely rework Chloro
    LOL (It pains me to laugh about that, but it's so true...)
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    Some call it a nerf some call it a buff...

    My 32 Chloro 34 lock pvp build (for when people other than me want to do nothing but DPS) has been doing well in 1v1 2v1 and pvp raid situations, better than before the patch.

    My 51 pyro 15 AM build has been replaced with what I originally rolled a mage to do: dom-lock.

    And my 51 chloromancer is fully able to heal all of t2 content provided the tank is speced tank and keeps mobs off the group.

    There are several new options for raid DPS now that the mage has, even though some may say that they fall behind warriors and rogues. Mage is more of an AE specialist when it comes to DPS and can put down more AE damage than a warrior or rogue by a very significant margin.

    Overall I feel that my mage is better off after the patch than before.
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    I'm not interested in deep thoughts from the devs. Just give us our dps back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaviusx View Post
    I'm not interested in deep thoughts from the devs. Just give us our dps back.
    It will probably be a load of BS from them, but may contribute to a good knee slap!
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    In before, "Petitions are not allowed on the forum".
    The Roguepocalypse is upon us!

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    As u can see they r to busy making the other callings better so they don't have time for the Mage class. Atleast they left us this gimmick build of necro/Dom. That be gone soon enough tho. I don't think ppl r asking to be the top dpsers I believe most post post I have read ppl just want to compete with them. As for I, I like to compete with top dps to without using a buggy zoo class. I really do like the Mage classes but heck if u have a 50 war or rogue u might as well play them instead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotiha View Post
    As u can see they r to busy making the other callings better so they don't have time for the Mage class. Atleast they left us this gimmick build of necro/Dom. That be gone soon enough tho. I don't think ppl r asking to be the top dpsers I believe most post post I have read ppl just want to compete with them. As for I, I like to compete with top dps to without using a buggy zoo class. I really do like the Mage classes but heck if u have a 50 war or rogue u might as well play them instead
    Indeed, my warrior is lvl 37....waiting for them to be nerfed so I can roll a rogue in which I will wait for them to be nerfed, in which I will roll a cleric which will get nerfed in which I will roll a nerf, which of course will get nerfed. Then I may be able to play my mage again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sotiha View Post
    As u can see they r to busy making the other callings better so they don't have time for the Mage class. Atleast they left us this gimmick build of necro/Dom. That be gone soon enough tho. I don't think ppl r asking to be the top dpsers I believe most post post I have read ppl just want to compete with them. As for I, I like to compete with top dps to without using a buggy zoo class. I really do like the Mage classes but heck if u have a 50 war or rogue u might as well play them instead
    I think mages should be top ranged dps. I'm ok with melee being higher dps if the fight allows melee.

    Also.. WHYYY did they nerf archon dps???? makes no sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hethroin View Post
    Some call it a nerf some call it a buff...

    There are several new options for raid DPS now that the mage has, even though some may say that they fall behind warriors and rogues. Mage is more of an AE specialist when it comes to DPS and can put down more AE damage than a warrior or rogue by a very significant margin.
    LOL... u obviously didnt c a decent warrior dps. In our guild our warrior out dps me on some AE pulls if i dont use CDs (Intensify Elements, Static flux...etc). It rly gets frustrating...
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    As people may have noticed myself and others are becoming increasingly frustrated and disillusioned with mages and Trion. Put up another Gersh thread promising us something so I can make another picture. http://forums.riftgame.com/showthrea...ack-(The-truth)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaCommando View Post
    LOL... u obviously didnt c a decent warrior dps. In our guild our warrior out dps me on some AE pulls if i dont use CDs (Intensify Elements, Static flux...etc). It rly gets frustrating...
    Biting.

    What warrior "rotation" beats "Hailstorm, Lighting Storm, LF, 2FL, LF" on AE pulls? 2Mighty Blow (assuming 20ish paragon spec for random free point) + Bladefury?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ururu View Post
    I think mages should be top ranged dps. I'm ok with melee being higher dps if the fight allows melee.

    Also.. WHYYY did they nerf archon dps???? makes no sense
    As I've yet to see inquisitors or marksmen beating mages with any consistency(or at all, really) I think it's safe to say we are top range dps. The problem most mages are experiencing is that right now melee dps is destroying Mage dps with one or two button macro rotations while we are forced to use slightly more complex rotations to be remotely competitive. Most Mage rotations leave no room for error without a big drop in dps.

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