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    Default Most mages should just reroll to an easier class

    After reading many peoples posts and threads it's apparent that most people playing mages aren't really cut out for playing a mage. It is more complex than other classes and instead of trying to figure stuff out people tend to cry about it or blame the class because it cant POSSIBLY be that its their fault. Go figure.

    Some of us are unmatched in several categories playing a mage from pvp to pve, but it's not as easy as other classes of course. You cant 12121212 and win and feel good. You should really roll another class if you're finding mage too difficult.

    I mean I even made a thread with a very detailed post and people replied trying to refute it with points I addressed directly proving they didnt even read or arent interested in getting better just.. whining because their minds are made up.

    Seriously go play an easy class to feel better about yourself because this class isnt made for the keyboard turners or clickers.

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    i'm pretty sure i'm getting carpal tunnel from playing my mage thats how you know your doing it right :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcruxs View Post
    i'm pretty sure i'm getting carpal tunnel from playing my mage thats how you know your doing it right :P
    haha so true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhhh View Post
    After reading many peoples posts and threads it's apparent that most people playing mages aren't really cut out for playing a mage. It is more complex than other classes and instead of trying to figure stuff out people tend to cry about it or blame the class because it cant POSSIBLY be that its their fault. Go figure.

    Some of us are unmatched in several categories playing a mage from pvp to pve, but it's not as easy as other classes of course. You cant 12121212 and win and feel good. You should really roll another class if you're finding mage too difficult.

    I mean I even made a thread with a very detailed post and people replied trying to refute it with points I addressed directly proving they didnt even read or arent interested in getting better just.. whining because their minds are made up.

    Seriously go play an easy class to feel better about yourself because this class isnt made for the keyboard turners or clickers.
    That's actually a pretty silly point of view. If the mage class is substanitally harder to play then other classes then it should be "fixed" Or when creating a character they should add "difficutly" levels next to classes. I didn't play a mage to 50, to find out that I am underpowered and should reroll. I also didn't play to 50 to find out that I need to be a master of key pressing in order to compete.
    There are many options/solutions.Two are.

    The classes could all be balanced to mage level
    Mages could be buffed up.

    rerolling doesn't help short term ,though does long-term likely, as Trion would notice the huge drop in mage players and then seriously re-work the class. Course by then they would likely have lost players. And frankly, if they loose many players that haven't got much hope for keeping the game running.
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    If had made the topic "Mages should just reroll to an easier and better class", your post would made more sense.

    Its not just that Warrior is easier. It is also better. A Warrior played by a moron is better than a perfectly played Mage.
    Last edited by Brad1959; 03-18-2011 at 06:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad1959 View Post
    A Warrior played by a moron is better than a perfectly played Mage.
    Want to include some situations to back that up?

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    Take a deep breath...Mages do NOT need to be buffed, as the op has stated, it's a difficult class to play and if you master it, you can do really well.

    What needs to be addressed (as a whole) is CC, this is what is currently causing so many problems.

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    Given how were limited to a few specific viable specs, we're not fine. We're Mages not Necro, Chloro, or Dom. Warlock should not have to be in most builds. Archon buffs need to not get overwritten so easily. Pyro, Storm, and Ele damage is **** no matter what way you try to show it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demah View Post
    Pyro, Storm, and Ele damage is **** no matter what way you try to show it.
    http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9197/misato.jpg

    My guildy mage only has a little bit of necro to get the pet and has more pyro and something else and his dps is just barely below mine. I would find out his spec and let u know if I thought it would actually help... but alas...

    party makeup:
    Fluff - dps war
    Misato - dps mage
    Shhhh - dps mage
    Healer - Healer
    Seracles - tank
    Last edited by Shhhh; 03-18-2011 at 07:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhhh View Post
    http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9197/misato.jpg

    My guildy mage only has a little bit of necro to get the pet and has more pyro and something else and his dps is just barely below mine. I would find out his spec and let u know if I thought it would actually help... but alas...

    party makeup:
    Fluff - dps war
    Misato - dps mage
    Shhhh - dps mage
    Healer - Healer
    Seracles - tank
    Wow that warrior has some serious L2P issues...

    Also, he has more then a little bit in Necro...as you need at least 21 points to get the zealot
    Last edited by Magicus; 03-18-2011 at 07:45 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magicus View Post
    Wow that warrior has some serious L2P issues...
    What should it be roughly? Because hes a little higher than our other dps war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shhhh View Post
    What should it be roughly? Because hes a little higher than our other dps war.
    Should easily be up where you are at, in the 700-800 range...unless of course his gear isn't on par with yours and the rest.
    Last edited by Magicus; 03-18-2011 at 07:48 AM.

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    Where did you get the DPS stats that you linked in that SS. Do you have ACT or something?

    I am still trying to figure out the ingame parser so i can rate my dps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grabemx View Post
    Where did you get the DPS stats that you linked in that SS. Do you have ACT or something?

    I am still trying to figure out the ingame parser so i can rate my dps
    Riftjunkies has a combat parser. InB4 someone claims they got a virus or hacked from the files. It's not in-game though.
    Last edited by Magicus; 03-18-2011 at 07:58 AM.

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    While I feel like I am an already extremely good mage and player and I love that everyone needs to l2p ect ect... because when we get buffed I will be more imba, your view is just wrong.

    You can't just say that because a class is harder to play than everyone who isn't good enough should reroll. Look at this from an extreme view. What if mages were so hard to play only 10 people in the world could master them, but those 10 people could outdamage and out pvp everyone else in the world by X3. According to you, since they have clearly shown that mages at the top are far far better than everyone else then the class is completely fine?

    You have to face the fact that most people online are not good players, they are average and the fact is that an average player playing a mage will do much much worse than that same average player playing a warrior. This is not fair. It is not fair to expect one class to be more skilled to be on par with other classes.

    That's like two people taking the same test, one person has an IQ of 80(warrior) and the other person has an IQ of 120(mage) and the mage needs to get a 98 out of 100 to get an A (because his IQ is higher) while the warrior only needs to get an 80 out of 100 to get an A (because his IQ is lower). Then you say that since most mages can't get a 98 they should reroll a warrior if they want an A.

    Have I beaten this to death? In any case, when mages do get buffed I can't wait to faceroll more than I already am.
    Last edited by MrGrimm999; 03-18-2011 at 08:02 AM.

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