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Thread: Damage buffs - what stacks what doesn't

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    Rift Master
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    Default Damage buffs - what stacks what doesn't

    Did some testing on what does and does not stack for the Stormcaller / Warlock / Elementalist
    casted buffs and this is what I came out with. You can use the info or test it yourself to
    see what should be similar results and if you like, post any stacking combinations you have
    found too.

    I used two main attack skills and tested what they would hit for in a range (Base) then got a few
    crits too and that became the "Crit" below.

    Most of the skills stacked well - only two were any issue, that is explained below.

    Scenario
    Lvl 40 mage on Lvl 40-41 mobs

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    Skill says
    Thunderbolt
    62-65 dmg

    Casted Thunderbolt - no buffs
    Base 194
    Crit 294

    Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 253
    Crit 382

    Neddra's Torture + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 260
    Crit 391

    Exposure + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 267
    Crit 402

    Neddra's Torture + Exposure + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 271
    Crit 411

    Sacrifice Life Damage + Neddra's Torture + Exposure + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 293
    Crit 446

    Neddra's Torture + Exposure + Static Flux + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 317
    Crit 484

    Sacrifice Life Damage + Neddra's Torture + Exposure + Static Flux + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 323
    Crit 484

    ------------------------------

    Skill says
    Lightning Strike
    193-197 dmg

    Casted Lightning Strike - no buffs
    Base 414
    Crit 621

    Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 535
    Crit 807

    Neddra's Torture + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 561
    Crit 825

    Exposure + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 565
    Crit 850

    Neddra's Torture + Exposure + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 575
    Crit 869

    Sacrifice Life Damage + Neddra's Torture + Exposure + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 631
    Crit 927

    Neddra's Torture + Exposure + Static Flux + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 684
    Crit 1024

    Sacrifice Life Damage + Neddra's Torture + Exposure + Static Flux + Ice Shear w/3 electrified
    Base 681
    Crit 1024

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    Note that the Base fluctuates a few points but the crit is consistently the same number.
    For brevity I just show a single number for the base - when you test you will likely see the same fluctuation. It's the difference of 241-243 for ex.

    From what I'm seeing in testing

    Sacrifice Life Damage (Warlock) and Static Flux (Stormcaller) do not stack with each other.

    It seems like it always takes the larger of the two.

    Otherwise, Neddra's Torture, Exposure, and Ice Shear all seem to stack fine in any combination.
    That's a general gain of 3% + 7% + 30% = 40% + dmg

    Adding in the lack of stacking potential for the 2 other skills.
    You could either buff yourself with
    Static Flux (if you have extra charge) +20% dmg or with
    Sacrifice Life Damage (does not require charge) +10% dmg but probably should avoid using both together.
    Last edited by Fernt; 03-17-2011 at 05:04 PM.

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    Soulwalker
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    It looks like there is some sort of diminishing returns happening with the buffs, except with crits. But it looks like crit damages seem to cap out reach a buff cap. Or maybe there are caps on increases of damage for a number of buffs. Would be interesting to seem more numbers using debuffs like Ashen Defense.

    For example:
    Thunder Bolt w/ Ice Shear crits for 382.
    Thunder Bolt w/ Ice Shear and Neddra's Torture crits for 391. An increase of 2.4%
    Thunder Bolt w/ Ice Shear and Exposure crits for 402. An increase of 5.2%
    Thunder Bolt w/ Ice Shear, Neddra's Torture, and Exposure crits for 411. An increase of 7.6%, which is what it should be.

    But
    Thunder Bolt w/ Ice Shear hits for 253.
    Thunder Bolt w/ Ice Shear and Neddra's Torture hits for 260. An increase of 2.8%
    Thunder Bolt w/ Ice Shear and Exposure hits for 267. An increase of 5.5%
    Thunder Bolt w/ Ice Shear, Neddra's Torture, and Exposure hits for 271. An increase of 7.1%. Yet it should be 274, an increase of 8.3%.

    Also, Thunder Bolt and Lightning Strike crits seem to cap out at 64.6% and 64.9% increases, respectively. This is all very interesting.

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