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    Default This it what happens...

    ...when you make
    • Legendary that triple stacks your (previously) #1 source of healing
    • Legendary that Resets your biggest C/D
    • Legendary that multiplies your Bosuns per hot on targets
      • In other words, all Legendaries aid each other
    On a spec that when played near it's max could out heal others before legendaries came into play(some might not think so but it's true).


    http://imgur.com/a/6PhR2


    Various parses. Ranging from ~~6mil to 7.4mil Ohps.

    Basically, when/how are we going to see healing balance passes? Also there's just too much to how warden works for any simple fixes. Most people I see (wardens) struggle to hit/break the 1mil mark (goes into the 'difficulty to play'/'Performace due to player' discussion).

    Warden's been in this state since release but not until LFR did any 10 man content(where it's at its strongest) has there been a true 'power test', and there are still things that need QoL (like 3x stack of HF dropping when you're at 4x stacks but you can't see the timer).

    Not really complaining about being able to heal as much as an entire raid full of healers but it makes me really concerned about how hard trion's going to nerf bat it.

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    Last edited by Zehne; 01-27-2017 at 11:35 AM.

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    Send a PM to Keyens and Vladd about the imbalance. I'm pretty sure they're already aware, but extra data is almost always good.

    Hop on PTS and test out the current state of things using Darkdaemon's quick guide for PTS parsing, and forward your findings on.

    The world needs more testers.

    (In before "trion should beta test their own stuff" salt.)
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    And i thought we got an alphateam for testing....
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    I recommend drastic methods:

    http://imgur.com/a/bTLua

    Not like some Warden bugs reported about a year ago also play into this mess.
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    wouldn't be surprised if this goes live. I noticed that non-warrior specs tend to go live broken op regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redfoxx View Post
    wouldn't be surprised if this goes live.
    This is live.
    Last edited by Zehne; 01-27-2017 at 10:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehne View Post
    This is live.
    That awkward moment when somebody assumes broken numbers are from the PTS, but they're actually just on live because healing is hilariously messed up atm, moreso than anything else (class balance-wise anyway).

    I can fall asleep healing experts with tact or warden, but for primas, mages, or wars to a lesser extent, any fight with heavy aoe damage is like HM T3 raiding, especially with pugs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxsmith View Post
    That awkward moment when somebody assumes broken numbers are from the PTS, but they're actually just on live because healing is hilariously messed up atm, moreso than anything else (class balance-wise anyway).

    I can fall asleep healing experts with tact or warden, but for primas, mages, or wars to a lesser extent, any fight with heavy aoe damage is like HM T3 raiding, especially with pugs
    On my lib warrior healing Scarn is challenging if people want the chieve (actually challenging!). Everything else the hardest part is not asking the tank if they want me to go DPS. Haven't done Hex yet but I hear that's pretty easy too. (Still using 3.4ish lib spec) I've basically ignored the legendaries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehne View Post
    This is live.
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    That looks like a high crit rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by keepor View Post
    And i thought we got an alphateam for testing....
    Alpha was 3.5 days.

    Thx for your efforts tho!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxsmith View Post
    I can fall asleep healing experts with tact or warden, but for primas, mages, or wars to a lesser extent, any fight with heavy aoe damage is like HM T3 raiding, especially with pugs
    Chloro is snooze....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizbo View Post
    That looks like a high crit rate.
    +5% from warden talents, +3% from puri (i'm 3/5pnts since i'm 8 puri/7 sent) which puts baseline crit at about 30% or so.

    Factor in Raid buffs and the crit rate goes up higher. Factor in RNG and the crit rate is perfectly normal (for warden).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepatits View Post
    On my lib warrior healing Scarn is challenging if people want the chieve (actually challenging!). Everything else the hardest part is not asking the tank if they want me to go DPS. Haven't done Hex yet but I hear that's pretty easy too. (Still using 3.4ish lib spec) I've basically ignored the legendaries.
    I've yet to find an expert encounter that needs a tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hepatits View Post
    On my lib warrior healing Scarn is challenging if people want the chieve (actually challenging!). Everything else the hardest part is not asking the tank if they want me to go DPS. Haven't done Hex yet but I hear that's pretty easy too. (Still using 3.4ish lib spec) I've basically ignored the legendaries.
    Everyone has issues with Scarn, if they'd stay away from the fire then they'd be fine. I still use my old Warden spec and don't have an issue as of yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WiseHermit View Post
    Everyone has issues with Scarn, if they'd stay away from the fire then they'd be fine. I still use my old Warden spec and don't have an issue as of yet...
    It's just basic game play- don't stand in or run through poo.

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