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    Default Shaman is back! YAY!!!

    Fellow Clerics.... SHAMAN IS BACK!!! the first thing that i do once the server were back was some Shaman tests with the new revamps and finally it's back!!! With just the first test i got almost 315K with less buttons than Defiler with any of its variances.

    So it's time to do a lot of extra test to get the most out of it!!! So please feel free to post here your builds and parses in order to get the best of it!!!!

    My first test:
    1st Test
    http://i.imgur.com/agyPR8r.png

    I've been using this for the first test:
    Build
    http://i.imgur.com/1M39DM7.png

    I'll try several things out to get more DPS.
    Waiting for your testing guys!!!!
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    Swap Glacial Shield Legendary for Deep Freeze Legendary is around 15k extra DPS.

    329K with this change.

    EDIT: 333.5K, it depends a lot on the Bolt of Judgment RNG, but basically it's the way to atm, i'll try with the "old Sanction Herectic Legendary and it's not even close to BoJ right now.

    EDIT 2: Ok, 340K the best i got. Glacial Strike hits like a truck, 664.3K Max Hit. And Bolt of Judgment is a must for now... It procs A LOT! and it's totally passive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shelenia View Post
    Swap Glacial Shield Legendary for Deep Freeze Legendary is around 15k extra DPS.

    329K with this change.

    EDIT: 333.5K, it depends a lot on the Bolt of Judgment RNG, but basically it's the way to atm, i'll try with the "old Sanction Herectic Legendary and it's not even close to BoJ right now.

    EDIT 2: Ok, 340K the best i got. Glacial Strike hits like a truck, 664.3K Max Hit. And Bolt of Judgment is a must for now... It procs A LOT! and it's totally passive.
    Can you link the macros you are using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymphadoras View Post
    Can you link the macros you are using?
    Sure, i'm using 2 macros for Physical and Magical:

    Physical:

    #show Massive Blow
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Massive Blow
    cast Punishing Strike
    cast Inscribe Fate
    cast Crushing Blow
    cast Ekkehard's Grasp

    Magical:

    #show Frozen Wrath
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Frozen Wrath
    cast Glacial Strike
    cast Jolt
    cast Icy Blow
    cast Ekkehard's Grasp

    CD:

    #show Deep Freeze
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rage of the north
    cast Deep Freeze

    #show Rush of Strength
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast Rush of Strength
    cast Massive Blow

    And one of the most important to me!!! The rupt!
    If you have a focus the interrupt goes to the focus, if you don't then interrupt your target.

    #show Bitter Wind
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast @focus Bitter Wind
    p Interrupted!

    And that one is for AoE:

    #show strike of the maelstrom
    suppressmacrofailures
    cast frozen wrath
    cast strike of the maelstrom

    Then just spam Avalanche Strike, Strike of the Maelstrom macro, rinse and repeat and use the CD macro as you wish or save it for something bigger

    I think these are the whole pack of macros i'm using.

    While pulling use Inscribe Fate on its own key and after that you can do 1 out of 2 things:

    1- Lightning Hammer+Vex while running to boss
    or
    2- Ride the Lightning

    One or another you'll get Frostbite so you can start with Physical macro once you reach your target. Whatever you choose is totally up to you
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    Have you tried comparing it with 10 druid 5 inq ?

    I would say with this build Mercurial would work well as well. over all it 'should' give a dmg boost.

    Combined effort and fervent strike (legendary) (that works into a rotation as well) give the same amount of dmg boost as the runeshaper legendary

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    I'm playing it a bit differently, but I get around 335-340k dps with Shaman, pretty nice. (:

    Also tested 10 Druid / 5 Inq, it's not worth it, only around 300k dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnusualBunny View Post
    Have you tried comparing it with 10 druid 5 inq ?

    I would say with this build Mercurial would work well as well. over all it 'should' give a dmg boost.

    Combined effort and fervent strike (legendary) (that works into a rotation as well) give the same amount of dmg boost as the runeshaper legendary
    Quote Originally Posted by Fia View Post
    I'm playing it a bit differently, but I get around 335-340k dps with Shaman, pretty nice. (:

    Also tested 10 Druid / 5 Inq, it's not worth it, only around 300k dps.
    As Fia said 10 Druid/ 5 Inq isn't worth it. 15% extra dmg from Runeshaper is a must (or Sentinel if you don't have RS)

    I tried with Sanction Heretic Legendary as well, but it isn't worth it either.

    And take another soul beside Inquisitor don't think it works. Bolt of Judgment proc is a must.

    Anyway, i'll try to do a lot more test with diferent souls/combos etc.

    Thanks for your posts!
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    ok got 350k sustained (and 500k burst dps) now:

    http://i.imgur.com/HO38RJl.png


    (Image shows 345k, but that's cause it took some time until Rift Meter realized the fight was over, infight it was 350k dps).

    GG, awesome stuff! :DDD
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    What do you think will be the best build for pvp?

    I used to love my 11 cab/4 druid, because that teleport was so useful. I am trying 11 RS/4 druid now because that 15% increase is so tempting; I just can't get used to the way the break free works yet.

    Then there are the 8/7 and 5/10 Inquis/Druid combos. Also, without getting some heals from the Savant crystal, I've been using the druid heal instead of damage increase because solo queue shaman means you have to be ready to not get healed.

    It's kinda crazy that the Bolt legendary is first on the parse. I guess I need a build with a damage increase, a Dark passage like breakfree, some minor self heals and a crazy strong passive bolt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nantucket View Post
    What do you think will be the best build for pvp?

    I used to love my 11 cab/4 druid, because that teleport was so useful. I am trying 11 RS/4 druid now because that 15% increase is so tempting; I just can't get used to the way the break free works yet.

    Then there are the 8/7 and 5/10 Inquis/Druid combos. Also, without getting some heals from the Savant crystal, I've been using the druid heal instead of damage increase because solo queue shaman means you have to be ready to not get healed.

    It's kinda crazy that the Bolt legendary is first on the parse. I guess I need a build with a damage increase, a Dark passage like breakfree, some minor self heals and a crazy strong passive bolt.
    Current shaman is not that great for PvP. The majority of damage increase comes from BoJ as well as new Legendary Icy, which promotes non-target swapping.

    Any cleric PvP spec has to opt into Druid for fairy, which pigeonholes most specs to only one useful off-soul. The only think I can really see work is 11 Cab 4 Druid with Fairy, DP, and normal Deep Freeze for a stun and Legendary's Shadow Touch, which makes you a 1-min CD bot that bursts really high for 3 GCD but does very little damage outside of it.

    If you wanted more damage you can try up to 12 Inq with 3 Druid, but that loses CE for a physical and you have less break frees to work with, but you can get a purge in Inq for 12 and Shroud is really good at annoying people when capping points.
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    I wonder if BoJ being the top ability - even ahead of Massive Blow, which historically (with Brutalize) has been the majority of Shaman's DPS - means it's been overbuffed and will be nerfed. It doesn't seem right that an ability from an offsoul is top.

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    The BoJ rework has caused a lot of problems by overbuffing a lot of specs, Druid bugs notwithstanding.

    For reference:
    BoJ #1 DPS for 61 Shaman
    BoJ #2 DPS for 61 Druid
    BoJ #3 DPS for 61 Cab
    BoJ top 4 DPS for 61 Defiler (depending on RNG)

    The way that the procs are being calculated heavily buffs damage specs with any sort of DoT with them, since each DoT tick appears to have a separate chance of procing BoJ. It's even more ridiculous on Druid, since BoJ consumes EoL stacks, and does life damage (+100% bonus from Legendary RB).

    At least the Devs managed to make it so that there is an ICD for the proc, which appears to be 1/sec.
    At the current proc rate it might as well be a 100% uptime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forbiddenlake View Post
    I wonder if BoJ being the top ability - even ahead of Massive Blow, which historically (with Brutalize) has been the majority of Shaman's DPS - means it's been overbuffed and will be nerfed. It doesn't seem right that an ability from an offsoul is top.
    Since the changes BoJ procs from almost whatever hits the target and the ratio seems to be something close to 25% chances.
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    Ofc it's gonna get nerfed, no question about it.
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    Enjoy while you can guys!!! :P
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