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    With 2.8 coming very soon, and ninja changes to shaman (for those who didn't know : Dauntless Courage (Tier 1 talent of Shaman) is changed from 5% damage increase to 10% SP increase), I headed to the PTS and drew this spreadsheet.

    These numbers are obtained on the PTS in the Dummy Foundry in my live gear, with a feast and SP banners, aswel as assuming CP cap is obtained, with Armor of Awakening up, Spiritual Scrutinity, and if the spec has it, 5 stacks of Rage Blight, but without the crystal buff from Scourge.

    I'm currently working on adding what would be the result with an ideal rotation over two minutes.

    My first feeling is that the old spec will stil parse the highest assuming 100% uptime on Rage Blight and no target switching.
    I think any mistake with Dark Water or some kind of target switching will let 11shaman/4defiler pull higher.

    Discuss !
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    Any chance these changes go live tomorrow?

    Also, thanks for parsing out these specs and sharing the information.

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    2.8 patch note still isn't online, so no one but Daglar and a selected few developpers know anything for sure at this point. One can only hope !
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    I'm hoping

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    Worthless change IMO.

    Don't understand why it's so hard to make cleric dps competitive.

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    Definitely seems to be status quo for the inquisitor spec (still not competitive dps), but it should be a slight boost to shaman and help with scaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fufi View Post
    My first feeling is that the old spec will stil parse the highest assuming 100% uptime on Rage Blight and no target switching.
    I think any mistake with Dark Water or some kind of target switching will let 11shaman/4defiler pull higher.

    Discuss !
    Why 11/4? It seems to me 10 Sham / 5 Defiler is the better option taking 2 in singled out and 3 in vicious. Especially considering the sway that Zealotry and Fanatacism has against crit rating value. I assume in 11/4 you were taking 4 in vicious 2 in singled out. With the extra point in Defiler you get, based on my stats, around 50 sp and ~35 crit rating. That should outweigh the +126 crit rating from adding 1 more point into vicious unless Crit Rating is pushing up over .55 compared to 1 sp in weight which i doubt is true for Inq.
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    Here is a 10 Shaman / 5 Defiler parse. No consumables, 9006 SP, 1199 CP + Charred. I have 4 piece Tier 3 and Beacon. This is with rage blight active. I am interested in what other callings are parsing at range (Ranger, Temp, Lock) in the same setup. I know pyro isn't even currently in the ballpark. I will throw up a dw parse next.

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    TYPE                  DAMAGE      ENCDPS     AVERAGE    MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST    HITS   SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                   11,215,259  31,067.20  8,700.74   4,537   1,218   44,872  All       1,289  1,302   99.00   44%    
    Bolt of Retribution   2,617,666   7,251.15   26,441.07  32,067  15,869  37,747  Life      99     99      100.00  56%    
    Scourge               1,609,881   4,459.50   6,879.83   8,518   4,303   9,690   Death     234    234     100.00  55%    
    Bolt of Depravity     1,547,462   4,286.60   30,949.24  37,164  18,793  44,872  Death     50     50      100.00  54%    
    Bolt of Judgment      1,447,492   4,009.67   17,439.66  12,678  11,038  25,019  Life      83     83      100.00  48%    
    Nysyr's Rebuke        1,305,408   3,616.09   36,261.33  38,740  18,958  42,086  Life      36     36      100.00  83%    
    Vex                   1,011,158   2,800.99   4,358.44   5,313   2,683   6,028   Death     232    232     100.00  58%    
    Symbol of Corruption  673,679     1,866.15   3,454.76   4,153   2,114   5,048   Death     195    195     100.00  0%     
    Sanction              451,050     1,249.45   2,059.59   2,395   1,218   2,691   Life      219    219     100.00  66%    
    Sanction Heretic      394,405     1,092.53   17,148.04  13,000  11,655  25,892  Life      23     23      100.00  39%    
    Spotter's Order TEST  157,058     435.06     1,331.00   1,331   1,331   1,331   Physical  118    118     100.00  0%     
    Autoattack (Ranged)   0           0.00       NaN        0       0       0       Unknown   0      13      0.00    NaN
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    Dark Water 8584 SP 1199 CP + Charred, No consumes. Similar crit rating to the shaman parse. Overall, very similar numbers between the 2. Both were 6 minutes long.

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    TYPE                  DAMAGE      ENCDPS     AVERAGE    MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST    HITS   SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                   11,435,860  31,075.71  7,608.69   4,493   846     42,729  All       1,503  1,514   99.27   45%    
    Bolt of Retribution   2,093,247   5,688.17   23,258.30  17,151  14,840  35,379  Life      90     90      100.00  43%    
    Scourge               1,640,466   4,457.79   6,980.71   8,422   4,252   9,597   Death     235    235     100.00  58%    
    Bolt of Depravity     1,377,057   3,742.00   29,936.02  35,980  17,323  42,729  Death     46     46      100.00  59%    
    Nysyr's Rebuke        1,266,830   3,442.47   35,189.72  37,836  18,846  41,893  Life      36     36      100.00  81%    
    Bolt of Judgment      1,217,745   3,309.09   16,456.01  11,944  10,404  23,516  Life      74     74      100.00  47%    
    Vex                   973,870     2,646.39   4,179.70   5,213   2,653   5,972   Death     233    233     100.00  52%    
    Darkness              944,597     2,566.84   4,198.21   5,029   846     5,714   Death     225    225     100.00  60%    
    Symbol of Corruption  608,948     1,654.75   3,383.04   4,047   1,948   4,807   Death     180    180     100.00  0%     
    Sanction              428,425     1,164.20   2,011.39   2,369   1,196   2,685   Life      213    213     100.00  62%    
    Sanction Heretic      371,574     1,009.71   16,889.73  12,414  10,988  25,289  Life      22     22      100.00  45%    
    Dark Water            354,712     963.89     11,823.73  9,410   7,554   18,049  Death     30     30      100.00  47%    
    Spotter's Order TEST  158,389     430.40     1,331.00   1,331   1,331   1,331   Physical  119    119     100.00  0%     
    Autoattack (Ranged)   0           0.00       NaN        0       0       0       Unknown   0      11      0.00    NaN
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    Quote Originally Posted by haybale View Post
    Here is a 10 Shaman / 5 Defiler parse. No consumables, 9006 SP, 1199 CP + Charred. I have 4 piece Tier 3 and Beacon. This is with rage blight active. I am interested in what other callings are parsing at range (Ranger, Temp, Lock) in the same setup. I know pyro isn't even currently in the ballpark. I will throw up a dw parse next.
    In my live gear which is about similar quality (I assume beacon is a tier 3 relic) as yours MM is 28-28.5k and ranger ~33k. Tempest is about the same dps as ranger or possibly slightly ahead on simultaneous parses done by sedvick and tralt. I don't know exactly how mage specs compare but I'd estimate pyro to be somewhere around 37k based on its test gear performance and scaling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gery View Post
    In my live gear which is about similar quality (I assume beacon is a tier 3 relic) as yours MM is 28-28.5k and ranger ~33k. Tempest is about the same dps as ranger or possibly slightly ahead on simultaneous parses done by sedvick and tralt.
    This is after the arc nerf? And yes beacon is the GS hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haybale View Post
    This is after the arc nerf? And yes beacon is the GS hammer.
    Yes that is after arc nerf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gery View Post
    Yes that is after arc nerf.
    Well i guess there is something gained in buildup time and improved target swapping. Still seems we could stand a 3-5% gain somewhere in this build. Shaman looks to have gotten just under a 5% buff with the change.
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    Inquisitor without Dark Water is like watching paint dry. Or playing Purifier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gery View Post
    In my live gear which is about similar quality (I assume beacon is a tier 3 relic) as yours MM is 28-28.5k and ranger ~33k. Tempest is about the same dps as ranger or possibly slightly ahead on simultaneous parses done by sedvick and tralt. I don't know exactly how mage specs compare but I'd estimate pyro to be somewhere around 37k based on its test gear performance and scaling.
    This looks similar to what I found on PTS.

    Roughly goes like
    61 Pyro > 61 Sin > 61 Paragon > 61 Shaman > 61 Warlock > 61 Tempest > 61 Ranger > 61 Inquisitor > 61 MM.

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