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    Default Spirit of Upheaval Better than Spirit of Asphodel

    For AE, yes, without question.

    But for single target, I'm seeing Upheaval is marginally (within derping rotation margin of error) better than Asphodel.

    I'd expect the difference to be clear, like the difference between DPS on AE (30%-ish). Instead, I'm seeing Upheaval is much better for AE and about equal for ST.

    Anyone else seeing this or finding similar (or different) numbers?

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    your saying spirit of aoe is better on one target than spirit of single target correct?
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    Yes, even though the ST one is deeper in the tree so should be better.

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    I don't even understand how you could possibly reach this conclusion. Are you using target dummies that are clustered or something?

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    my aoe is hitting for 227 my single target is hitting for 303.
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    I'm using a single target dummy standing alone.

    Thorns of Ire, EoL, Crushing Force, mash macro and refresh ToI and CF as needed.

    Both spirits run about the same dps across 3:30 (mana constrained).

    Though from the varying degrees of incredulity, it would seem the answer is, no, no one else is seeing this.

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    Prior to the new changes, I believe that was the conclusion someone else made when deciding whether or not going full 61 Druid was worth it. The difference between the two was thought to be negligible overall.

    And since neither one was really modified, I wouldn't think that would change now.
    But since there is no real reason not to go 61, there is no real reason not to pick asphodel because it technically does hit harder.

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