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    Quote Originally Posted by haybale View Post
    51Druid /20 Shaman/ 5 Inq 21091 at 3:52

    I believe this one could go much higher. I will try to max it out but i belive it is safe to say the Fae Mimicry change is needed
    I'm starting to lean to this. MB is so strong in this. I think, spec into Brutalize and just leave the 2 in Inquis for passive crit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastborn View Post
    I'm starting to lean to this. MB is so strong in this. I think, spec into Brutalize and just leave the 2 in Inquis for passive crit.
    Provides much more consistent dps 21,500, yet could still be tweaked (i.e. CD reduce on Mimicry would most likely beat this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastborn View Post
    I'm starting to lean to this. MB is so strong in this. I think, spec into Brutalize and just leave the 2 in Inquis for passive crit.
    This build will still be something to watch after the latest changes take effect. With the change to Pattern of Violence, Massive blow will be hitting more often which in turn will give brutalize more uptime.

    This could be minimal due to the 1.5 second global cooldown though. It will have a much greater effect in full Shaman.
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    Today's PTS Update

    Here's what I've done so far...

    PTS Parses and Builds-2013-07-22_172456.jpg
    This is 61Dru/8Sham/7Inquis. I parsed it consistently at 21,500, making sure to line up Mimicry while I had both CE and RB's proc up. I have yet to test variants, but I feel like for this to be a competitive dps spec it needs some more love.

    PTS Parses and Builds-2013-07-22_165003.jpg
    This is 61Sham/10Dru/5Inqui. Consistently parsing at 23,500. I feel like it needs 5% more damage from some source. Any advice or input about how to get that 5% is greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastborn View Post
    61 Inquisitor/15Defiler/0Blah
    So nobody has yet to mention this, so I don't know if people are doing comparitive parses, but with the recent changes to Inquisitor's GCD and the reduced cast time to BoR after a Unified Theory, the Inquisitor rotation should incorporate a mixture of BoJ and BoR. The reasoning behind this is that with BoR's casttime being longer than the GCD of the cleric, we will effectively lose a GCD every 3.33 casts. This being said, the first set of parses were with the new rotation, and the second set were with the old rotation.
    New
    1)22,300
    2)23,670
    3)22,560
    Average: 22,843
    Old
    1)21,880
    2)22,320
    3)22,450
    Average: 22,216.67
    One thing to add to this, perhaps decreasing the damage reduction from Spiritual Scrutiny to Bolt of Judgment would promote a more complex rotation (between BoR and BoJ) that shows a greater benefit than currently (about 500dps over 4 min parse).

    As always, Thanks Kervik
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastborn View Post
    This is 61Sham/10Dru/5Inqui. Consistently parsing at 23,500. I feel like it needs 5% more damage from some source. Any advice or input about how to get that 5% is greatly appreciated.

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    I figured the MB change would be significant. Unless you're massively messing up and doing 1500-2000 too little DPS (unlikely), it seems like it's still not on par with Warrior/Mage.

    Also, why not try out disconnects? Parse with purely ranged, then try disconnecting yourself for like 20s total over a 5 minute fight to be consistent with most raid encounters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polystyrene View Post
    I figured the MB change would be significant. Unless you're massively messing up and doing 1500-2000 too little DPS (unlikely), it seems like it's still not on par with Warrior/Mage.

    Also, why not try out disconnects? Parse with purely ranged, then try disconnecting yourself for like 20s total over a 5 minute fight to be consistent with most raid encounters.
    We all know how that would turn out :P I can do it if you really want, but I feel like it would be nearly pointless as there were no significant changes to disconnect abilities from the shaman tree (cept 5% from Furious Assault). I will attempt to do a "decent" disconnect parse and upload it sometime tonight or tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastborn View Post
    One thing to add to this, perhaps decreasing the damage reduction from Spiritual Scrutiny to Bolt of Judgment would promote a more complex rotation (between BoR and BoJ) that shows a greater benefit than currently (about 500dps over 4 min parse).

    As always, Thanks Kervik
    What parse time was that 23.6 inquisitor? My 23,195 parse had some ridiculous crit rng, but was a normal length parse at 3:43.

    As for your shaman parse, based on the parse time you're ending it right after a rotn, which I don't really like. A better compromise would be 30s between.

    I'll try and get a 4:15 parse though just for comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahov View Post
    What parse time was that 23.6 inquisitor? My 23,195 parse had some ridiculous crit rng, but was a normal length parse at 3:43.

    As for your shaman parse, based on the parse time you're ending it right after a rotn, which I don't really like. A better compromise would be 30s between.

    I'll try and get a 4:15 parse though just for comparison.
    Well I changed my mind; I'm not going to pretend that a 4:15 parse is acceptable. Here is a 4:02 (only 4 rotns used) http://i.imgur.com/bxHDqJc.png. If that had been 4:15 it probably would have been 24k or so.
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    Here is the best parse I've had so far, however the RNG wasn't the best.

    http://puu.sh/3JnG4.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEFUNKBOT View Post
    Here is the best parse I've had so far, however the RNG wasn't the best.

    http://puu.sh/3JnG4.png
    finally got some decent rng but forgot to enable combat logging.

    http://imgur.com/a/MQiwF

    was 23.8k before the crappy meter stuck in combat for an extra couple seconds.

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    61 Shaman/10 Druid/5 Inquisitor
    7418 sp
    3303 sc
    141 cp

    ACT Picture: http://i.imgur.com/4S4C5Xb.png

    Code:
    TYPE                           DAMAGE     ENCDPS     AVERAGE    MEDIAN  MINHIT  MAXHIT  RESIST    HITS   SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  
    All                            5,672,641  23,935.19  4,645.90   2,232   523     45,972  All       1,221  1,225   99.67   56%    
    Massive Blow                   1,069,030  4,510.68   27,411.03  28,751  18,479  45,972  Physical  39     39      100.00  64%    
    Frozen Wrath                   729,704    3,078.92   8,107.82   8,668   5,206   13,277  Water     90     90      100.00  71%    
    Crushing Blow                  678,685    2,863.65   13,051.63  14,338  8,984   15,327  Physical  52     52      100.00  69%    
    Vengeance of the Winter Storm  636,176    2,684.29   3,015.05   3,273   1,162   4,360   Water     211    211     100.00  73%    
    Brutalize                      499,862    2,109.12   4,346.63   4,406   2,835   10,557  Physical  115    115     100.00  22%    
    Jolt                           478,057    2,017.12   16,484.72  17,007  10,717  26,653  Air       29     29      100.00  69%    
    Combined Effort                318,484    1,343.81   22,748.86  24,803  16,478  36,979  Physical  14     14      100.00  57%    
    Lightning                      242,294    1,022.34   1,091.41   1,086   523     1,604   Air       222    222     100.00  79%    
    Icy Blow                       221,137    933.07     11,056.85  12,273  7,920   13,229  Water     20     20      100.00  65%    
    Life Surge                     203,031    856.67     1,538.11   1,738   1,069   1,900   Life      132    132     100.00  59%    
    Vex                            194,672    821.40     1,946.72   2,231   1,441   3,458   Death     100    100     100.00  47%    
    Eruption of Life               127,944    539.85     4,738.67   5,325   3,396   5,763   Life      27     27      100.00  63%    
    Spotter's Order TEST           108,278    456.87     1,388.18   1,356   1,331   2,021   Physical  78     78      100.00  0%     
    Auto Attack                    88,217     372.22     1,145.68   1,090   737     2,040   Physical  77     77      100.00  13%    
    Lightning Hammer               77,070     325.19     5,138.00   5,682   3,595   6,072   Air       15     15      100.00  67%    
    Deep Freeze                    0          0.00       NaN        0       0       0       Unknown   0      4       0.00    NaN
    Last edited by Byona; 07-22-2013 at 06:40 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahov View Post
    What parse time was that 23.6 inquisitor? My 23,195 parse had some ridiculous crit rng, but was a normal length parse at 3:43.

    As for your shaman parse, based on the parse time you're ending it right after a rotn, which I don't really like. A better compromise would be 30s between.

    I'll try and get a 4:15 parse though just for comparison.
    All of my parses end around 4:30, which is the point I usually run out of mana. So that may have also been the result of me ending the parse about 15 seconds after a Nys reset. I will keep your RotN consideration in mind when posting future parses.

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    Here's a couple I whipped up.

    Still not perfectly happy with my rotation but it is what it is atm.

    http://i.imgur.com/kpDotLK.jpg - Parse.

    http://i.imgur.com/CWwDCjI.jpg - Breakdown.

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    Although somehow.. I have like 80 less SP and 2 less spell crit than Byona in test gear :/

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