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    Default Need Help on a 1.9 Pvp Healing Spec

    I see a few geared clerics running some sort of Warden/Sent spec others are straight senticar. I'm just curious as an aspiring pvper what spec for healing is most viable in WFs at the moment given the big nerf to conquest favor. Also if you could link a build that would be much appreciated.

    Also any thoughts on where cleric healing stands as of 1.9 is appreciated to. Personally i think giving warriors an uncleansable 50% reduced healing debuff for like 15 seconds and the massive dps they already have is a little lame but thats just me.

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    I use 51 warden/15 sent. Works great usually best hps in conq

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    38/28 Warden/Sent or 3/28 Sent/Warden whichever you prefer.

    51 Warden is pretty bad.
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    Whenever I ask a top-heals healer from a warfront what spec they are using, they always say Senticar.

    There's bound to be a guide somewhere on the forums. Should give it a shot!
    http://forums.riftgame.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=622655&dateline=13202  79787

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ak1230 View Post
    51 Warden is pretty bad.
    Only if youre bad.


    51 warden or senticar. Both works fine. Depends on whether or not you feel you take too much damage or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finerty View Post
    I use 51 warden/15 sent. Works great usually best hps in conq
    Terrible.

    Conq is by no way to measure anything, considering I just run with the zerg semi-afk

    I use Senticar though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eughe View Post
    Only if youre bad.


    51 warden or senticar. Both works fine. Depends on whether or not you feel you take too much damage or not.
    You can't call people bad when you run 51 Warden.

    Just Saiyan.

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    I tried 51 Warden in Conquest a few times, and I must echo the sentiment that it is a terrible spec. The HoTs just don't do enough, they take too long to spread (Ripple needs to be on a 15s CD), Healing Cataract is garbage, and it takes way too long to prepare a target for Deluge. Deluge on someone with just one HoT is horrible. And the other CDs are lackluster.

    You have to have an extremely mobile build in CQ, so Senticar is probably the best bet. 51 Purifier is also pretty mobile (you don't cast RF), and it's great for keeping up three or four people, but it can't keep up with the massive amounts of AoE on a raid.

    I run Cabicar, but I do miss having a rez. That's the only reason I'd consider running Senticar.
    Last edited by Velkane; 07-19-2012 at 07:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SWGMOD010 View Post
    You can't call people bad when you run 51 Warden.

    Just Saiyan.
    If you find 51 warden hard to use, and I don't, and my healing is just fine, and I can keep my group up easily with both spec, which one of us is bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Velkane View Post
    I tried 51 Warden in Conquest a few times, and I must echo the sentiment that it is a terrible spec. The HoTs just don't do enough, they take too long to spread (Ripple needs to be on a 15s CD), Healing Cataract is garbage, and it takes way too long to prepare a target for Deluge. Deluge on someone with just one HoT is horrible. And the other CDs are lackluster.
    Pre orbing, using aoe hot, then ripple will make deluge heal for like 4k+ total (well it and it's after heal).

    Cataracts heals more than HC since its working at 80% capacity iirc. Cat can hit for a nice 3k on a crit.

    Down pour heals for around 2k a tick

    Flood around 350 a tick shower around 250 a tick, OF 568 a crit
    And pre ripple SS heals for more before you actually get hit, and can be freshed


    Works fine.


    You have to have an extremely mobile build in CQ,
    That's one thing warden isn't amirite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eughe View Post
    Pre orbing, using aoe hot, then ripple will make deluge heal for like 4k+ total (well it and it's after heal).

    Cataracts heals more than HC since its working at 80% capacity iirc. Cat can hit for a nice 3k on a crit.

    Down pour heals for around 2k a tick

    Flood around 350 a tick shower around 250 a tick, OF 568 a crit
    And pre ripple SS heals for more before you actually get hit, and can be freshed


    Works fine.




    That's one thing warden isn't amirite?
    Cataract has a cooldown though and HC can hit for 2.6k.
    Do you honestly believe a 350 HoT is going to save anyone, like seriously lol? It's just for fluff on the scoreboard and procs.
    Or, I can just silence your Downpour or knock you back and it forces you to stand still for the entire cast.
    Plus, without Serendipity you have overly long cast times.

    Also, I never said I found Warden hard, infact its ******edly easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWGMOD010 View Post
    Cataract has a cooldown though and HC can hit for 2.6k.

    Do you honestly believe a 350 HoT is going to save anyone, like seriously lol? It's just for fluff on the scoreboard and procs.
    No score board in CQ.

    Since most aoe damage is incremental, that 350 a tick makes nice a buffer. Your only concern is front liners which should be orbed up and hotted so they can recieve deluge affects.

    Then we have planar affects.


    Or, I can just silence your Downpour or knock you back and it forces you to stand still for the entire cast.
    Chances of you getting that close to do that is slim to none. Not in CQ.

    Plus, without Serendipity you have overly long cast times.
    Nah, your rotation should allow you to use those casts without it being of any concern.

    Not unless your just press buttons willy nilly.


    Also, I never said I found Warden hard, infact its ******edly easy.
    If it were, you'd probably be able to use it better.

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    I am pretty happy with 12 justicar, 16 warden the rest sent. I use this in conquest on my toon Cycle a lot.



    I switch between meins depending on the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finerty View Post
    I use 51 warden/15 sent. Works great usually best hps in conq
    There is nothing wrong with 51 Warden per say, it is mostly a matter of style. You are trading less burst group heals for more powerful Hots. Personally I wont play it in pvp, because I cant give up Serendipity, but that in no way makes full Warden less viable.

    You will probably still get more out of 38/25 W/Sent in Warfronts I feel, but again, this is really based on the amount of incoming damage types (slow gradual vs burst).


    Edit: 51 Warden does make for one fantastic SECOND healer in combination to a heavy (pvp) purifier or heavy sentinel spec. I wouldnt want to run this spec solo in a warfront though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sc1ence View Post
    I am pretty happy with 12 justicar, 16 warden the rest sent. I use this in conquest on my toon Cycle a lot.



    I switch between meins depending on the situation.
    This is what I am running, Critiques are welcome.
    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...R.xE0z.VuMo.-7

    In conquest, I tag enemys with instant life ranged spells to build up convictions for my isntant justicar group heal. I stand and group heal with sent when things are easy. I cast hots to fill up from warden. I can focus heal a 5 man group really well if we dont move too fast.
    Last edited by sc1ence; 07-19-2012 at 01:57 PM.

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