New PvP trinket (1.9), BIS for PVE dps ?

[Arkan24]

I think abyssal will be better. But this trinket seem very good to me
Conquest Master's Retribution
32 intel
34 wisd
30 endurance
65 SP
50 valor

[Turrant]

That is a total of 98.5 spellpower rounded down to just 98 if you do not have an extra .5 spellpower being rounded down. With the two 5% spellpower bonus from souls like Sentinal and Cabalist that works out to be 108 spellpower. Not sure how buffs like the bard renosence(sp) works out if they would include the MoAP stacks or not so leaving those out. You would need to maintain at least 4 stacks for the PvE trinkets to be BiS. Not sure how often that happens as I do not have the trinket to know and it would be also difficult to account for ramp up time after they fall off and how long at 5 stacks. I quick guess is if you are not lucky with stacks go with this pvp trinket, less rng involved. If I am off at all math or assumption please correct me.

[g o l d e n]

"how to get people into certain new content 101"

enjoy conquest pvp mode, dear raiders

[Calibrex]

whats are the requirements for that trinket?

[Turrant]

A 750,000 favor and the previous Order of the Eye blue trinket.

[Phaelen]

A 750,000 favor and the previous Order of the Eye blue trinket.

I think you have an extra 0 there. Isn't cap on favor 150,000 or are they increasing that on 1.9.

[Turrant]

Yep. I even double checked the screenshot to make sure I got it right and I guess I was still wrong. Strings of repeating numbers without commas always bluur together for me.

http://forums.riftgame.com/attachmen...rinket-lol.jpg

Edit: any insight from people who have AMoP or ID equivalent able to share?

[Arkan24]

actually on the pts u dont need the previous trinket

[Arkan24]

actually on the pts u dont need the previous trinket

u r right, u need previous trinket

[Jonus]

From personal experience I would prefer the current version of the new PvP trinket.
Yes, base sp is less than max-stack AMOP by around 50 or so sp.
However, the sc means you can swap any int runes for wis runes and furthermore you can swap your +15sc glove rune for the new +13wis pvp rune without having to worry about the loss of sc.

And the +30 endurance will no doubt help out in progression fights. Hell, replace your endurance seal on certain fights with your wisdom seal.

You have to consider that AMOP builds up slowly at the beginning of a fight whereas the pvp trinket will be static from the beginning. AMOP is also prone to dropping off before reaching 4 or 5 stacks a lot of the time (in 51inq, not sure about boltnjolt/druid/etc).

Furthermore, since the pvp trinket's sp is static, I assume it will effect the 3% bonus sp from Conquest perks whereas AMOP won't (that's my assumption anyway).

The int/wis stats means additional max mana and mana regen as well.

Adding all those up the pvp trinket's overall effect on your equips will probably be better than AMOP most of the time. Plus it will be the clear winner for senticar builds at the very least.

[Turrant]

Ahh, yes I forgot that clerics don't naturaly hit the soft cap like the other classes even though it is my main. I have been on the mage boards too much.

The 32 crit will be useful and would make it better than the pve trinket overall unless you are really lucky on stacks.

[Chanalia]

*snip*
The int/wis stats means additional max mana and mana regen as well.

Pretty sure we're all regen capped at this point. However, I'd still use this trinket for any spec due to the static stats. I'd take reliable +SP for shielding over an RNG trinket any day of the week.

[Darkgrace]

98 spell power and endurance, yes please. I'm almost willing to put money on them changing it to vengeance/sp because of people that cant obtain it easily qq'ing on the boards....

[Noshei]

98 spell power and endurance, yes please. I'm almost willing to put money on them changing it to vengeance/sp because of people that cant obtain it easily qq'ing on the boards....

frankly its pretty easy to get

but as far as BiS goes, it's looking like this will be BiS for every role. though healers may prefer some of the other healing trinkets.

[Ahov]

30 endurance is incredible for ID.

Even if you cut some more SP off I'd use it over AmoP because of the endurance. Being able to survive double-shots on Laethys is how you progress and kill her.