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    Default What is the best senticar spec?

    I recently tried the cabicar build but found its lack of building convictions, light spells for healing and lack of single target dps made me think the senticar would be a better fit for me. Although i was gobsmacked (:P) by the AOE DPS and HPS i could bring to the tables.

    Im thinking of going a senticar spec for 5 man dungeon healing, but am wondering what the best senticar build is to use?

    Thanks for the help!

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    depends on how good you are, there are 2 icar builds i would recommend.


    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...gxkqz.AuMoo.-6
    Gives your good dps, lets your bring decent dps, and still has plenty of ST and AoE healing. Properly played this can heal master modes so long as you don't have to cleanse.

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00....yuMooeozoR.-6
    2 brez's, good healing, useable very well in pvp and pve, can easily heal any 5 man, can solo heal a lot of 10 mans once you get decent at it. by far the best senticar spec, anybody who tells you 44 sent is better doesn't understand how to raid.
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    This is the spec you want http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...xk.yhMo0foz.-6

    Can main heal all content upto and including HK. Solo heal all 10 mans and most 20 man bosses with no problems, also has purge/aoe cleanse/interupt/great mana regen. Decent ST heals and amazing aoe heals. Can go melee or ranged.

    You'll love this spec when you master it.
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    Mmmmm, so my choice is pre much
    FOR MORE DPS http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...xk.yhMo0foz.-6
    OR MORE HPS AND REZ http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00....yuMooeozoR.-6

    mmm decision time :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by runrun View Post
    Mmmmm, so my choice is pre much
    FOR MORE DPS http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...xk.yhMo0foz.-6
    OR MORE HPS AND REZ http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00....yuMooeozoR.-6

    mmm decision time :P
    The second spec you link here has 2x combatress but otherwise its broken, the points are all screwed up in sentinel tree. For a properly built 2x combat ress spec see Ahov's guide.

    The first spec has both higher HPS and DPS and also more utility, only advantage to 2nd spec is the extra combat ress.
    Last edited by usman; 06-23-2012 at 03:56 AM.
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    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=10...hMo0foz.xxk.-6
    32sent/22icar/12inq is pretty much the only senticar i'd ever use

    I like to keep 1/5 Lasting Invocation for the proccs the first hot tick can give you, plus I prefer 1/3 - 3/3 Enraptured Breath over more points in Light Efficiency. The other points spent are pretty standard.

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    14 justicar/32 sentinel/20 shaman.

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...z.E0xxdszco.-6

    I haven't seen anyone else use it, really, but I love it. I prefer it to anything I've tried, and have been using it since progression on Lord Greenscale, with only a few minor tweaks.

    Also going 22pts into justicar for conviction building is pointless. You should always have serendipity up, and a Hcommunion will cast faster than the GCD - IE, convictions aren't needed on-demand. Hcommunion becomes instant with serendipity and Healer's Haste up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylined View Post
    14 justicar/32 sentinel/20 shaman.

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00...z.E0xxdszco.-6

    I haven't seen anyone else use it, really, but I love it. I prefer it to anything I've tried, and have been using it since progression on Lord Greenscale, with only a few minor tweaks.

    Also going 22pts into justicar for conviction building is pointless. You should always have serendipity up, and a Hcommunion will cast faster than the GCD - IE, convictions aren't needed on-demand. Hcommunion becomes instant with serendipity and Healer's Haste up.
    No. Communion eats mana like nothing else. Moreover, DoL is ALWAYS instant.

    The only reason you would have conviction generation issues with that build is because you don't have LMR, which is generally a hallmark of senticar builds (efficient conviction generation). So there's probably a good reason why the clerics I raid with don't carry that build and why you don't see other people running it -- it's not optimized.

    32 sent/22 justi/12 inq is fairly standard, though a build (I can't remember off the top of my head) with 10 warden can provide stronger AVERAGE DoL hits (Ahov's guide has the build IIRC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownsMageNerfDelivery View Post
    No. Communion eats mana like nothing else. Moreover, DoL is ALWAYS instant.

    The only reason you would have conviction generation issues with that build is because you don't have LMR, which is generally a hallmark of senticar builds (efficient conviction generation). So there's probably a good reason why the clerics I raid with don't carry that build and why you don't see other people running it -- it's not optimized.

    32 sent/22 justi/12 inq is fairly standard, though a build (I can't remember off the top of my head) with 10 warden can provide stronger AVERAGE DoL hits (Ahov's guide has the build IIRC).
    Hcommunion is always effectively instant. Mana is a non issue with 2 mana returns, potions, and an on-crit mana return.

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    You might as well just build a sentinel and spam Communion -- without LMR, you aren't really a senticar.

    32 sent/22 just/12 inq is essentially standard, 2 brez is often unnecessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylined View Post
    This is dumb. You are dumb.
    Yep, must be it. I raid with the top Guardian guild in the game, talk to the cleric theorycrafters about optimal heal specs and I'm secretly a big dummy.

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    Cabicar and Senticar are two different things. If you want something close to Cabicar but with more healing power, you're looking for Inquicar : http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=10...oigx0qz.V0x.-6

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    Quote Originally Posted by skylined View Post
    This is dumb. You are dumb.
    So much love on the boards lately

    I guess there must be a lot of new subs or reactivations.

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    Shouldn't be a hard choice for 5m content.

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    Default MbtL is OP guys

    If you play senticar I highly recommand you go at least 38 in sentinel for MbtL. I use it with a self cast macro and I use karuulalert to remind me when I'm out of charges. It will be an extra 10-20% of your healing on a off-GCD ability. Only downside to this is the high mana cost (250ish mana every 5 cast) so make sure you use your mana regen CD (Purpose and Aggresive Renewal) and your mana potions.

    Here's the spec I use 38 sent / 14 inq / 14 justi

    I went higher in inquisitor because the mana is a huge help (11 point) and the Soul Drain (14 points) does significant raid healing and dmgs when used on aoe packs. You could use those 3 extra points to get some more dmgs reduction in your justicar tree if you don't like soul drain.

    Most senticar like having at least 21 points into justicar for the extra conviction on crit but if you manage convictions a little better by using healing communion once in a while your heal are far more efficient with the 20% crit multiplier in inquisitor.

    I hope this was helpful to some of you guys.

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