Planned Changes for Clerics in 1.7

[samuszzz86]

While waiting for more cleric tank adjustments to make us less RNG, Ill keep working on warrior. /sigh

[CDok]

I liked playing the lotto everytime i use dark passage though :3

New Ability - Lotto 21 points in templar. Teleports you 45 metres in a random direction

[Ultimaetus]

PURI RAID SHIELD

/play "M. Bison_YES_YES"

[Zorus]

Firstly, I'd like to thank Zibnik for taking the time to post this stuff. It means a lot to the community, and allows us to get excited again...which is something this game needs. Heck, with these changes, you might even bring some players back.

My thoughts on what else I'd like to see:


Sentinel needs better mana regen.


I would still like better survivabiliy and scaling with Justicar.


Druid should be moving towards a support soul, with a trio of pets that can do multiple functions to help the raid or group.

[Galibier]

No to druids becoming a support soul. Unless of course uou want to fuel and make a reality "clerics fill all the roles so 'we' should be better at <insert role here>" crap.

As to the other things yes.

[Hawkmoon0028]

The proposed changes are all excellent news for clerics. Can't be mad about anything there- if you scroll back through the cleric/suggestion forums, we've pretty much asked for most of these changes.

Thanks for listening, Zinbik.

[Ultimaetus]

So with the tooltip fixes, does that include puri shield values?

[Malicomatt]

Not enough. Not near enough. What about the scaling problems? What about the GOD AWFUL mitigation problems for the justicar tree? What about mana efficiency? Putting 5 more meters to aoe heals for aoe healing trees is still a joke compared to DoL power. Are we only supposed to use our healing souls for dungeon healing and DoL for raiding? What a freaking waste. And these "changes" to druid seem like a rearrangement and nothing more. I swear if we have waited all this time and this is all they come up with, if this seriously goes up live without address ALL of those other issues, then my faith in the developers will have disappeared and I will have to look for my game entertainment elsewhere.

[ClericRet]

Zinbik,

Hopefully you can comment on this.

While I like the idea of a raid shield and a 44pt brez in puri, making it more desireable to move higher in the tier. Unfortunately, talents like Healer's Haste and Serendipity make a puri/sent overwhelmingly stronger than a 51 puri could ever be.

I understand the balance is that you get much stronger shields by rising to 51 pts, but with pushback on a 3s cast being so prevalent in many pve/pvp encounters, have you considered giving puris a reduced cast pushback with say.... 38-44 pts in the tree? With pushback from swarmer mobs + ticking aoes (like scarn) it makes high puri almost worthless as a tank healer vs puri/sent with HH and Serendipity to speed up casts and combat pushback.

Overall though, love the changes!

My only other suggestion would be to remove the cooldown on Frozen Wrath in the Shaman tree so Shamans can more effectively switch targets and not lose dps waiting for the 15s CD to come back.

[Ellkar]

That's not currently planned, but something we may consider. Right now it has the same values as the top 3 ranks of Ward of the Ancestors. It benefits from Protection of the Ancestors and Disciple of Flame.

what about the greater planar essence "Ancestrak Soulstone" (+727 on all yet excisting purifier shields)? would be great if the bonus also counts for Gathering of the Ancestors.

[Siiris]

Hey Zinbik,

thx for the changes. i like the most of them! But i have one question on this one

*Shaman - Brutalize: Increased duration to 10 seconds. Reduced maximum stack size to 3.

does it mean that brutalize does now also more damage or is it just slowed and reduced to 3?

thx

[Jungo15]

Why does everyone think that Sentis are suppose to be the "AoE healing soul" when justi have just as much aoe capability through out its root and tree as senti, and warden has more aoe capability than both?

The Sentinel crystals give +5% to AoE heals. I don't disagree with what you are saying but it is a fairly well established fact that at least Trion feels that Sentinel is the AoE healing soul.

[Lillya]

I so love it when Developers actually respond to the community and make the changes needed to improve gameplay. Rift is awesome.

[Quietmode]

The Sentinel crystals give +5% to AoE heals. I don't disagree with what you are saying but it is a fairly well established fact that at least Trion feels that Sentinel is the AoE healing soul.

With 20m range on Surging flames, Puri will be the new AoE heal spec! Just spam Heals on a shaman with the 10% heal bonus and lolheal 5people for sweet raid heals.
haha

[Jinjah]

Zinbik,

Hopefully you can comment on this.

While I like the idea of a raid shield and a 44pt brez in puri, making it more desireable to move higher in the tier. Unfortunately, talents like Healer's Haste and Serendipity make a puri/sent overwhelmingly stronger than a 51 puri could ever be.

I understand the balance is that you get much stronger shields by rising to 51 pts, but with pushback on a 3s cast being so prevalent in many pve/pvp encounters, have you considered giving puris a reduced cast pushback with say.... 38-44 pts in the tree? With pushback from swarmer mobs + ticking aoes (like scarn) it makes high puri almost worthless as a tank healer vs puri/sent with HH and Serendipity to speed up casts and combat pushback.

Overall though, love the changes!

My only other suggestion would be to remove the cooldown on Frozen Wrath in the Shaman tree so Shamans can more effectively switch targets and not lose dps waiting for the 15s CD to come back.

A purifier51 will still be without a doubt the stronger tankhealer if played properly. It's big disadvantage is that it needs to be stationary about 90% of the time and its aoe healing is bad it's best off not wasting time on it.

At the moment it's a niche spec, but still a viable choice on some fights. This will only increase now.