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    Default Quick question about justicar and patch

    Hey, I read the patch notes and I'm not sure if I understand this properly. Is justicar mitigation decreased from the changes to devout deflection? I seem to have a lot less parry than I used to. I don't really know a lot about how the damages work in this game--does the reduction in non-physical damage sort of even things out for tanking dungeons?

    I'm mostly wondering if I'll still be ok to tank normal dungeons as I level up. I pretty much have just been slapping a shield on, but with these changes do I need more dedicated tanking gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpacafur View Post
    Hey, I read the patch notes and I'm not sure if I understand this properly. Is justicar mitigation decreased from the changes to devout deflection? I seem to have a lot less parry than I used to. I don't really know a lot about how the damages work in this game--does the reduction in non-physical damage sort of even things out for tanking dungeons?

    I'm mostly wondering if I'll still be ok to tank normal dungeons as I level up. I pretty much have just been slapping a shield on, but with these changes do I need more dedicated tanking gear?
    parry was hard capped at 20% (despite what the paper doll was showing).

    the parry conversion talent was changed from 195%of sp->parry to 90%of sp->parry +60%sp->dodge. you lose a lot of parry, you gain a lot of dodge. for low geared people (before t3) this may come as a slight nerf (really small if i remember the number's correctly), but because we no longer reach the cap with just t2 gear, it means that our overall mitigration when raid buffed with good equip is hightned.

    the 10%magic mitigration is another thing altoghether.

    ah just saw that you are just leveling up. in this case, youshould have no problems tanking your way up. snb+two hander tanking (for pre-lvl50) are both still viable. i really can't remember any tank-speciffic equip being available before tiered experts though.
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    The Justicar is a much worse tank than before 1.3 patch.

    I tanked T2 dungeons all day with some agro issues but my parry and block was great, took alot of damage from spells, and had no dodge something like .3%. Now I have a worthless 8% dodge my parry is nothing and block is about the same.

    Heres the real story though. Tried to tank expert CC last night and sadly I had to have a bard and healer from start to keep up with damage I was takeing we died 3 times before first boss. These people who sit back and look at numbers dont live in real world. the numbers dont tell the truth. The truth is that Strength still gives me more parry and block than spell power. The truth is the justicar is a piece of crap after 1.3patch. Was able to tank xCC with just a healer before 1.3 and zero deaths. Theres the Truth!!!!

    So sit back with all your dumb plug ins and pincel pushing tech. or let the Justicars tell the real truth.

    The dodge doesnt exist in a T2 dungeons, its good for a regular lvl 50 mob but thats it. parry is horrible now and block seems to be less. 10% spell mitigation is a total joke when the spells do 2k and you have 3 or 6 casting at you. No this was a NERF to the tanking ability of the justicar. Im sick of TRION and cancled account. why should I spend all that time gearing only to have these morons make me get all new gear doing the same garbage grind.

    Im in full T2 gear epic sourcecore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogus View Post
    The Justicar is a much worse tank than before 1.3 patch.

    I tanked T2 dungeons all day with some agro issues but my parry and block was great, took alot of damage from spells, and had no dodge something like .3%. Now I have a worthless 8% dodge my parry is nothing and block is about the same.

    Heres the real story though. Tried to tank expert CC last night and sadly I had to have a bard and healer from start to keep up with damage I was takeing we died 3 times before first boss. These people who sit back and look at numbers dont live in real world. the numbers dont tell the truth. The truth is that Strength still gives me more parry and block than spell power. The truth is the justicar is a piece of crap after 1.3patch. Was able to tank xCC with just a healer before 1.3 and zero deaths. Theres the Truth!!!!

    So sit back with all your dumb plug ins and pincel pushing tech. or let the Justicars tell the real truth.

    The dodge doesnt exist in a T2 dungeons, its good for a regular lvl 50 mob but thats it. parry is horrible now and block seems to be less. 10% spell mitigation is a total joke when the spells do 2k and you have 3 or 6 casting at you. No this was a NERF to the tanking ability of the justicar. Im sick of TRION and cancled account. why should I spend all that time gearing only to have these morons make me get all new gear doing the same garbage grind.

    Im in full T2 gear epic sourcecore.

    ^^ ignore him he mad.

    justicars are fine as tanks... pre level 50 you shouldnt have to get "specialist" tank gear. (I dont believe there is any apart from shields)

    as for post level 50, some of the new abilities are bugged and require fixing (devs are working on it now)

    once everything works they should be better then before.

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    If you were parry capped before at 20% through SP, you are now at about 9.2%. With that same amount of SP you should be at 9% Dodge. Block is unchanged.

    So assuming you had zero parry/dodge gear, then you are down 2%. If you had more than 2% Dodge before the patch or were well above the parry cap, then you're up some, overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogus View Post
    lots of words
    You're doing something wrong then. Tanked just fine last night in xDD. Rebuke doesn't work like it should, but then that doesn't really change anything at all from before the patch. Still have to LoS pull most things.
    I sometimes get things right.

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