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    how bout something completely new, a tanking class that has a pet that can heal him, all it would do is cycle buffs and heal him. I dont think any game has had pets that do anything but dps, with some moderate CC, but this could be something interesting.

    a lot of the grind type games are tough for tanks to solo cause of all the downtime between fights, this could do something to eleviate this.

    also I want any pet class, to have pets be customizable including armor/stats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrdynn View Post
    how bout something completely new, a tanking class that has a pet that can heal him, all it would do is cycle buffs and heal him.
    Sounds like a solo-player's idea of heaven. But it could cause all of the healers to revolt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrdynn View Post
    I dont think any game has had pets that do anything but dps, with some moderate CC, but this could be something interesting.
    Nope.

    City of Heroes has pets of many varieties, including several that heal.

    Aion's water pet was originally a heal-pet.

    Champions Online has medbots.

    Earthrise will also have some kind of medbot.

    And there are probably more.
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    I like the idea but I think of all the archetypes a tank would be the worst off with a pet. Pet classes have to be designed around the fact that there is an additional body providing damage, defense, and even healing in this case. Without the pet, the class loses much of it's effectiveness. A tank, particularly against a dungeon boss, can't really afford to have it's effectiveness cut so drastically.

    That said, there's always Paladins if you want a healy tank. ;)

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    LotRO's Captain had a pet that could heal.
    If you say plz instead of please, I say no because it's shorter than yes.

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    I thought that was your girlfriend/wife? Most of the couples I met were comprised of the man tanking and the woman running around desperately to keep up and heal - the modern century's version of "quality time!"

    Seriously though, I don't really understand the need for it - hybrid pet-having classes can certainly take a few hits and keep on going without screaming and running away. I wouldn't really understand the need of a full tank at that point - tanks aren't all that efficient at taking down mobs quickly, hence the need to heal a lot as it takes a while for a tank to chip down a foe; they're built for defence, not offence.

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    Perfect World Entertainment had that, it was called Venomancer, it got so OP that it could solo stuff that groups of 6 couldn't
    its a bad idea, would mean too much QQ over the channels and forums about how OP that class is

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    the heroes of telara who believe in gods could have a paladin on their side.

    and the evil tech side could have a fighter with machine/robot healing pets.

    maybe the difference would be that the heroes/paladin could heal himself or others,
    any time during a fight.

    and the evil tech side could only program their robots to heal themselves at timed
    intervals, like every 30 seconds. maybe to balance things a little the robot would heal
    slightly better than the god given ability, since the robot was limited to healing one primary person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g0kuenuan View Post
    Perfect World Entertainment had that, it was called Venomancer, it got so OP that it could solo stuff that groups of 6 couldn't
    its a bad idea, would mean too much QQ over the channels and forums about how OP that class is
    Agreed....I mean, if the tank can have a healer pet, can the cleric have a tank pet? ;p
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    Quote Originally Posted by g0kuenuan View Post
    Perfect World Entertainment had that, it was called Venomancer, it got so OP that it could solo stuff that groups of 6 couldn't
    its a bad idea, would mean too much QQ over the channels and forums about how OP that class is
    Not entirely correct. the Veno healed their pet not the other way around. though they were slightly OP it was a blast to clear dungeons in a dou with my wife, at or damn near the lvl of the instance.

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    I do not think it would work well.

    To balance it with the other tanks would make it a weaker tank to off set it having a self heal.

    To balance it with healers means the heal would need to be weak or you you annoy the healers.

    Over all its not some thing that can be balanced that well you end up making it to weak or to strong at any given time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayde View Post
    I do not think it would work well.

    To balance it with the other tanks would make it a weaker tank to off set it having a self heal.

    To balance it with healers means the heal would need to be weak or you you annoy the healers.

    Over all its not some thing that can be balanced that well you end up making it to weak or to strong at any given time.
    Have to agree with this! In my opinion tanks should be brick-stupid-strong-like-ox type of creatures, with only means of healing themself is "first aid", and occasional meals.
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    This idea hasn't been thought through in terms of balance really. The point of specialisations is such that one class CAN'T do everything. Why not have every class have their own personal healer pet and get rid of the healing archetype altogether? Personally I don't think that would be any more fun than groups working together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancient View Post
    Not entirely correct. the Veno healed their pet not the other way around. though they were slightly OP it was a blast to clear dungeons in a dou with my wife, at or damn near the lvl of the instance.
    same thing, a solo-able class like that is not meant for MMOs and would bring only QQ in the community, classes like that are for single player games

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    Telara is looking to be going one better. Trion have briefly mentioned the souls idea and it sounds to me like you are going to be able to add 'modules' to your class that give you the abilities of another class in moderation. Therefore you should be able to be a warrior with some heals. I just don't think they will be, or should be, all powerful and able to keep a player alive.

    Of course there's already a warrior with heals...he's called a paladin. In MMOs in general...not announced for Telara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anagain View Post
    Telara is looking to be going one better. Trion have briefly mentioned the souls idea and it sounds to me like you are going to be able to add 'modules' to your class that give you the abilities of another class in moderation. Therefore you should be able to be a warrior with some heals. I just don't think they will be, or should be, all powerful and able to keep a player alive.

    Of course there's already a warrior with heals...he's called a paladin. In MMOs in general...not announced for Telara.
    I still think we are going to end up with a EQ2 class stlye in the end.

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