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    Barabbas class tier list PVE/Tiny mention of PVP



    Overall Class Tier List:



    Golden Gate Games tier/Top tier: You want these in your raid.




    Rogue:

    Top 3 tank.

    Best mobility for tank,

    Best healing while tanking with cadence spam.

    Top 3 dps

    Best defensive support hybrid healer.

    Top 3 ST healer with physician also with a 30sec Prevent death CD. Like a much better Sentinel.

    PVP note: Very strong in pvp as earrings do not scale. Strong options for builds in pvp.



    Cons-A lot of useless dps souls. Little flexibility with builds. More cookie cutter than most classes.



    Primalist:

    Top 3 tank

    Best ST dps

    2nd offensive support

    A support hybrid build that increases raid dps while doing strong dps at the same time while stacking with Archon/BM. Required for optimal raids.

    Strong raid healer with huge over healing when trying for it.

    PVP note: Very strong in pvp as earrings do not scale. Best healer in pvp hands down.



    Cons---Hard to play optimally dps with little cleave besides a one minute CD. Dps,tanking and support are strong enough to pretty much have the class locked into those roles unless there is a surplus of primalists or tanks etc. Lower tier ST heals.



    Mage:

    Best offensive support.

    Stong dps with cleave and is skill dependent.

    Best dps for Pure healer, brez etc, even without doing Chlorolock etc.

    Best overall raid healer.

    Best offensive support with heals.

    Archon is pretty much required for raids.

    Top 3 ST healer. Like a much better Puri.

    Best overall healing class.

    One of the most fun and fastest moving souls Mystic Archer for open world content also strongest soul for low level.



    Cons-----Not a good tank. Hardest to play class optimally. Mystic archer is useless for group and raid content at max level.



    Gamigo Tier/Middle Tier:



    Warrior:

    Best ST healer with a dmg link.

    Best tank healer while being totally mobile and providing some dps.

    Top 3 dps and has cleave,

    Top 3 raid healer.

    For undergeared players, 4 points into warchanter can allow huge self healing unrivaled by any class for only 4 points. Making this class easily one of the must durable.

    Lots of decent dmg builds compared to the other classes.

    One of the few classes with a feign death.

    PVP note: Very strong in pvp as earrings do not scale. Warlord is strong and flexible for pvp.



    Cons ----One of the worst tanks despite being warrior. Melee only support with a pet that feels tacked on. Currently best dps build requires you to get an Offhand item from TD Normal, which is often only ran for that so can be tough for most players.



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    Cleric:

    Best tank. Highest aggro gain, ease of play etc.

    Best dps while tanking.

    Best defensive hybrid support dps. Orafiler is basically the only one until some rogue tries for it.

    2nd best defensive support hybrid healer.

    A lot of varied builds from people trying to make cleric work better than they do.





    Cons---Worst ST healer despite being called cleric. Least flexible dps class and it shows when there is a lot of target switching. I.E. Look at Inq target switching on Titan X trash compared to Marksman. Raid heals not the best despite being cleric and also more difficult to play than the others as you have to balance a lot of HoTs. Tons of useless souls. Unless you are tanking, often times you will have to work harder than your fellow raiders. Almost every role other than tank with defiler debuff and wardocle when there is no Tact/Bard (Excluding orafiler, defihealer because most raids don't want to use them/don't need to) can be done by another class better than cleric.







    Top 3 souls/builds for raiding
    Cleric- inquisitor, warden/oracle, justicar
    Warrior- linkchanter, Liberator, riftblade
    Mage- Chloro, elem/pyro, Archon and it's variants
    Rogue- 61Nightblade, Bard/tact, Riftstalker
    Prim- PL/Vulc, Pseudo support, Titan

    Worst souls at max level with filled tree
    Cleric- Runeshaper
    Warrior- Champion
    Mage- mystic archer
    Rogue- Shadeborn
    Primalist- Predator



    Tank Tier list
    1.Cleric-

    Battle rez, best aoe dps while providing some healing. Highest aggro generation.

    2.Rogue-

    Best aoe healing while tanking. Lowers enemies chance to hit. Most fun tank with teleports. Strong aoe dps when trying for it. A lot of CDs.

    3.Primalist-

    Gives raid 5% crit. Decent healing from essence strike. Most CDs are pure damage reduction which is better for the under geared tank. E.g. 20% damage reduced vs absorb shield. Flexibility to get more healing but has to sacrifice points into other souls. Extremely easy to play.

    Tied last. Warrior- Hey I can tank.
    Tied last. Mage- I can tank as well.


    Single Target DPS-

    1.Primalist- PrimalLord/Vulcanist

    Raw dmg increase from talents and abilities give this build an extremely high dmg potential. Minor cleave with 1minute CD that has to be timed exactly. Difficult to play optimally bc of RNG involved with Legendary Scything Strike. Can be optimal at ranged. Other builds worth noting: Melee PL and 28 Vulc.

    2. Rogue- Nightblade

    Amazing cleave. Strong dps. Some ranged. No problems with disconnect. Other builds worth noting: Marksman

    3. Warrior- Riftblade

    Best with Dual wield, which is crazy as all of the other builds for warrior are best with the 2hd eternal. Strong dps and has the potential to be top dps depending on encounter. Mix of ranged and a tiny bit of melee.

    4. Mage- Elem/Pyro

    Strong burst and cleave. A skilled mage can easily be top dps with this. Has varied builds to either focus on ST dps or AoE. Other builds worth nothing: Pyro and warlock.

    5. Cleric- Inquisitor

    Strong ST dps. Plays like a weaker marksman with more DoTs and no cleave. Very bursty with a 2min CD. Other builds worth nothing: Shaman, melee only, and Druidalist which is ranged but less total dmg than the other two.


    Offensive Support

    1.Mage-Archon:

    By far the best support soul. This is so flexible because you can be a raid healer with chlorochon, St healing with FKChon or ST dps with Metachon. Which is Archon with warlock.

    2. Primalist- Mystic:

    There is some flexibility here but mainly mystic provides support with strong ranged dps.

    3. Warrior-Beastmaster:

    BM is good but it requires melee and that can be an issue. It has a wider range of CDs than the others. Offering both offensive and defensive CDs. Easier to play than the other 2 and still offering a lot of support and decent dps.


    Defensive support hybrid with healing:

    Most raids will not use a full defensive type support role. Like full oracle for example. Which is exceptionally weak but oracle's dmg boost CD includes a prevent death buff that lasts 8 seconds. So instead they utilize hybrid defensive support classes with healing or dps.

    1.Rogue-Tact/bard:

    The strongest hybrid healer because it offers more dps which is easily done while healing, easily applied raid HOTs, double aoe cleanse, st cleanse and brez.

    2. Cleric-Warden/oracle:

    This build is strong and can be used in place of a Tact/bard but it takes a lot more effort on the part of the cleric and thereby opening the window for mistakes. It does ok dps but you are not able to damage and heal at the same time so it falls behind the Tact/bard. However it's burst healing is strong but then mana becomes and issue. Double cleanse, st cleanse and Brez still. This build is still a must learn for clerics and there is a tiny bit of room for customization of the build.

    3. Cleric-Defihealer, defiler/oracle/justicar:

    This is a great build to use when there is no defensive support buffs, cleansing isn't a huge issue and you need more dps/heals. This build will pull 400k dps 1million overhealing, while having an aoe cleanse. It does not have a ST cleanse or Brez but if those are not issues this build can save a raid's day.


    Defensive support hybrid with dps

    Orafiler:

    This is the only note worthy build for providing defensive support buffs and dpsing. It is strong and definitely worth learning for the utility.


    Single Target Healing

    1.Warrior - Linkchanter- Warlord/Warchanter

    Damage link. Moderate dps while healing, which in itself, is amazing. Defensive CDs for tank, strong St heals that can effect 2 targets and small aoe radius heals for those near by.

    2.Mage - Frost Keeper

    Strong ST heals with some damage and shields. Surprisingly good Raid heals with the right setup as most mage builds with chloro off soul. Highly recommend mages learn Frostkeeper.

    3.Rogue - Physician

    Tough to put this soul third bc of Life insurance but bc of lack of utility I feel it's a little worse than the top two. HPS is strong and the strongest prevent death CD in the game.



    If you can't use the above then there are these 3 souls left lol.
    4. Primalist- Preserver
    5. Cleric- Sent and Puri- Hurts me to put puri so low. It was my favorite healer in Nightmare Tide.



    Raid heals, based on total healing and usefulness.

    1.Chloromancer
    Constant strong raid heals. Besides a few abilities, this requires enemies to be present to keep healing at it's highest levels. But because of that, it's dps as a pure healer is higher than the others.

    2. Liberator
    Easy to play raid heals with shielding.

    3. Farseer
    Harder to play than the easier heals but extreme burst with CDs.

    4. Tact/bard
    Easy to play and provides support buffs.

    5. Warden
    Debately hardest to play raid healer with multiple HoTs, heals over time, to keep up deliberately. Strong burst but mana will be something you need to learn to constantly manage more so than other classes. When you get good with it, resource management becomes less of an issue but the others above never have to worry about it. Higher total heals per second than Tact/bard as full warden but still weaker over all.





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    Last edited by Barabbas; 12-20-2018 at 12:07 PM. Reason: Clearing up some stuff and added a lot more lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barabbas View Post
    Also didn't proof read this and just posting it as is for now.
    That is always a bad idea. Always. If you want anyone to take a post like this seriously, always proofread it to make sure you didn't make any stupid mistakes. And explain more WHY you made this list and what it's for.

    As it is now, this is just a rant that shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone.

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    Thanks for your comment. This list is a way to condense info for new players, specifically more hardcore types, to make it easier on which class to play and work to end game with. I will update this sometime with more elaboration. I like the balance in the game currently and I know it is a difficult task to do, especially with legendary abilities, but this list gives people an idea of what to expect from each class at end game. Note that all classes are useful and at least one of each class is optimal for raids.

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    Rogue is the best overall class to start with which while gearing also gives you the opportunity to use some of the shared bound on account gear with your primalist. Consider the expense of upgrading your trinket and planar essences if you pick any other two classes. Primalist is also in the top two with a rogue in DPS and has its own unique support like Archon. Warrior follows behind in ST dps then mage then the cleric. However, you may want to pick Mage to support and it has second best DPS with AE/Cleave in the game outside of rogue who has the best range AE and ST.

    Worse investment by a far margin is Cleric. After legendary hit changes they become worse tank with the worse synergy. Defihealer isn't really a true healing soul with rez and on demand heals making it the most uncertified progression type support heal in the game. Much like when rogues were used for tact/bard because it was much better than wardocle but as time goes by the wardocle was just used since the rogue was better at dps than the cleric and wardocle was good enough for the content. This has happened with phys/bard, phys/tact, bard/tact. Basically, if you are progressing with a new guild you will want to always use the best healer with the most options like bringing battle rez and on demand healing for ohh sh.. moments. Defihealer is just used when the players are more or less facerolling the content already and in most cases it is wasted space because they can just use a single healer and tank healing hybrid now for that content.

    Best investment by a far margin overall is rogue>primalist>warrior?>?mage>cleric.

    Mage = best support, best AE healer with superb damage, Top 2 Cleave/AE ST range DPS spec. Lower ST DPS than a warrior.

    Warrior = better tank, better ST healer, better ST DPS but not as good at range cleave with ST , better in PvP than mage. Easier to play than Mage.

    This is why there is ?? marks. In this case, it varies depending on your choice. It comes down to whether you want to be the best Support Mage or the better Tank healer with a more faceroll playstyle in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedynn View Post
    rogue who has the best range AE and ST.
    This is why I can't take your posts seriously.
    Your primalists friends really that garbage and couldn't beat rogues in ST?
    I mean really?
    It's basically like Aedynn playing Inquisitor and gets beat by ranger in single target like she often does.
    Then complain on the forum and say even ranger is better than Inquisitor.
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    Wasn't aware of the post by Barabbas. Nice and detailed list. Eventho it may needs an update regarding Rogue dps (alternate MM), warr tank(wc-vk get's 1mil hp and a huge bonus in healing taken) and healing (lgLib able to outhps bards and chloros) aswell as the prim 'teddy' melee.
    skiye didn't post a oracle dps variant, providing a little more dmg than the archont+ full oracle buffs, cost reduce and healing taken buffs. (41 oracle and 0 druid)

    Besides that i enjoyed reading this detailed and slightly savage breakdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shas View Post
    skiye didn't post a oracle dps variant, providing a little more dmg than the archont+ full oracle buffs, cost reduce and healing taken buffs. (41 oracle and 0 druid)

    Besides that i enjoyed reading this detailed and slightly savage breakdown.
    Slave driver! lol

    I'd say the dps is on par with a well played Archon. But your point stands.
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    External cost reduce is a direct 6-7% dmg gain on bofors.

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    Done, tried to post a whitty meme but it kept just putting links in. *shrug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by FateStayNight View Post
    This is why I can't take your posts seriously.
    Your primalists friends really that garbage and couldn't beat rogues in ST?
    I mean really?
    It's basically like Aedynn playing Inquisitor and gets beat by ranger in single target like she often does.
    Then complain on the forum and say even ranger is better than Inquisitor.
    No, but you are. Look at the average ST dps in Bamul parses https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1686100336

    Wrong as usual and again need some hand-holding and guiding into the right direction. You have threatened to quit when your class was on top all along and actually did because you refuse to learn to play your class well. Rogue has the best overall synergy and specs the game has to offer and you can't accept it or you are so bad with the best class and get beat by clerics and mages all the time. Very clueless and very bad reputation on the forums as a result of your constant misinformation. Biggest QQ'er for no reason I have ever engage conversation with. Even when proven wrong countless times by multiple people you still can't admit your are wrong.

    As a long time player I also remember when the rest of the player base including rogues complained about warrior champion prior to SL when it was an all in one spec that bought the best AE and ST for that class during HK/ID era and sabdancer nerfed because of the same reason.. as well as SC hybrids. There was a reason why the founding devs decided to split identities so that souls would be valuable in different scenarios. Unfortunately, that is no longer the rule of thought going forward when Keyens, or Vladd took over. If a player feels their class should deserve the same treatment under this new made up rule on the fly you shouldn't behave so childish. In the end, this type of behavior is childish and destructive to the game as a whole. That is why the population of clerics is so dismal, mostly alts of mains who have already fully geared their mains, and soon the mage will feel the same effect while the population drops dramatically.

    Rogue will have very few others to play with but themselves as a result. You never ever saw the big picture of how important balance was to have a healthy population. All you cared about was being regarded as OP and no one ever calling it out for your favorite class which is ultimately why Rift had to be sold off because of the 1000s upon 1000s of players they lost as a result of class favoritism and imbalance just to please a few players who need to have other classes handicapped to feel good about themselves.
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    Rogue is awesome but mage is not so bad. I would definitely pick mage over warrior. Warrior may have great dps but they remind me like how druid was with cleric. A good dps but barely viable because of design restrictions outside of a dummy boss. Ele/Pyro is good dps in everything and even 61 pyro and warlock are great if you don't want to be lazy. I definitely rather chloro heal than ST heal as a warrior.

    Most people expect you to be able to heal as a warrior which means purchasing soul packs as well. The way the classes were developed in PoA is quite horrendous to other expansions. Players picked warrior to dps and tank and they end up being healers and clerics to heal or support and they ended up mostly tanking. Obviously, the class dev was a complete troll...lol. The only classes that make any sense are rogues and mages to a new player because they have the identity you expect for them to be + even more identities as a bonus. Primalist is still green to me but it is really good too from what people tell me. Of course you have to pay the most to play that class.
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    After the changes to legendary hit Rogue, Primalist and Mage seem to have excelled passed Cleric when it comes to tanking. I don't see a purpose for cleric anymore except as a filler or as a below average support wardocle or defiler/oracle (which I don't see much guilds allowing it to be played over the bard variants.) And wardocle will leave the cleric almost all the time on cleanse duty with a stupidly long buildup time and quite horrid playability.

    That is how terribly designed cleric seems now. Having your screen littered with like 8-12 Kalerts and not being able to enjoy the game because you are constantly tracking all these abilities with stacks with and without RNG and general timers, and in case of wardocle maintaining your mana with a borked mana regen ability that could just easily have been changed to expires after 4 secs. Instead, you have to make a cancel buff macro for it.. Warden mana maintenance is beyond ridiculous. All of that to just to barely wanted or be considered good enough. No thanks. Cleric needs severe quality of life changes. I would say it is actually unhealthy to play the class by the way they designed it as well.
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    If your raid lead doesn't take a wardocle/deficar-thingy over a bard ... they're weird. Why lose that much dps? :P Deficar does a ton more than any hybrid-bard and rogue-dps is a lot higher than cleric's. Only downside is the lack of a combat rez which is why I usually have our cleric play wardocle on Azranel and deficar on the other 2 bosses in BoS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xly View Post
    If your raid lead doesn't take a wardocle/deficar-thingy over a bard ... they're weird. Why lose that much dps? :P Deficar does a ton more than any hybrid-bard and rogue-dps is a lot higher than cleric's. Only downside is the lack of a combat rez which is why I usually have our cleric play wardocle on Azranel and deficar on the other 2 bosses in BoS.
    Hybrid bard dps is around 400K+ average while also healing. It is also safer since they don't need a target for all its heals. It is the same outside of providing the 5% from defiler. Most rogues don't want to learn to play it or know how. There is no need for deficar on the last boss with a tank self healer. Second boss you may want to just use regular orafiler or pure dps and chlorochon. They can heal that fight just fine without having another support healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedynn View Post
    Hybrid bard dps is around 400K+ average while also healing. It is also safer since they don't need a target for all its heals. It is the same outside of providing the 5% from defiler.
    While true that you can spam MoR for non targeted heals, if you're just using the DPS rotation your HPS will be roughly half that of a defihealer. The healing output is about equal if the Bardsman is using the healing rotation, but the DPS will be only about 1/2 of a Defihealer. You'd need to know the fight well to adjust between the two rotations with Bardsman, although damage on Isiel is very predictable so it should be easy enough.

    Defihealer also has 5% cost reduction to abilities. That does tend to be a nice dps increase for the raid.

    Most rogues don't want to learn to play it or know how.
    It's a very niche spec.
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