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    Default Master of duel

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    After many patches who in your opinion is master of duel (1vs1) atm ? (lev cap, geared)

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    Whomever has the squirrel mount will dominate in duels.

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    I mean what CLASS and BUILD seems to be best 1vs1 ?

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    If you cant answer, and the winning depends from many factors it means the game is BALANCED: )

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarsss View Post
    If you cant answer, and the winning depends from many factors it means the game is BALANCED: )
    It actually means that nobody cares about them, because duels do not matter and are completely meaningless for PvP balance.
    Last edited by Muspel; 11-10-2013 at 08:08 AM.

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    let's say each class has 1 or 2 best dueling specs, but we can't say that any one of them is the best because of many many factors including player skill

    okay, but then what about the dozens of other specs that are NOT the best dueling specs but are much more important because they contribute to group pvping, which is the majority of all pvp? what if healing was so overtuned that no one can die in warfronts anymore? who cares, they're not a dueling spec right? Pure sentinel can't kill anything.

    the conclusion is: you can't base how balanced the game is based on dueling specs
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarsss View Post
    If you cant answer, and the winning depends from many factors it means the game is BALANCED: )
    there are issues in balance tbh, but mostly these problems occur in PvP with a few in PvE.

    there are many best 1v1ers going atm, but there are also many who cant 1v1 still.

    Plus theres so many things need that need QoL fixs before the game can reach balanced in pvp.
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    Duels are important and to be honest us pvpers should probably do them more often. They help you fine tune your pvp skills and they help you learn how to fight/counter other classes. That said, you almost always want to try and duel someone better than you or at least as good as you, otherwise it's not going to accomplish much.

    Having said all that, as was pointed out above, the game is not balanced around 1v1 and certain classes have gimmick builds that will destroy people in 1v1 duels but become almost worthless in a team setting. On top of that, using those types of builds really probably won't help you become a better pvper in arena or warfront style pvp anyway.
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    Mages have the best 1v1 builds right now with chloro/dom and chloro/harb, they are pretty much unbeatable as long as you are semi decent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emanresu View Post
    Duels are important and to be honest us pvpers should probably do them more often. They help you fine tune your pvp skills and they help you learn how to fight/counter other classes. That said, you almost always want to try and duel someone better than you or at least as good as you, otherwise it's not going to accomplish much.

    Having said all that, as was pointed out above, the game is not balanced around 1v1 and certain classes have gimmick builds that will destroy people in 1v1 duels but become almost worthless in a team setting. On top of that, using those types of builds really probably won't help you become a better pvper in arena or warfront style pvp anyway.
    Well said. "Help you fine tune your pvp skills and they help you learn how to fight/counter other classes". Duels are very important for PvPers. If you love competition, you love PvP, you spent a lot of time with your character (sometimes few months) on leveling and gearing and suddenly it shows your rogue is very weak 1vs1 its a litle bit...discouraged.

    Quote Originally Posted by kronor View Post
    Mages have the best 1v1 builds right now with chloro/dom and chloro/harb, they are pretty much unbeatable as long as you are semi decent
    Ty You all for answering. If mage is so strong 1vs1 he is also too strong in group. It is logical.

    Question: Chlor/Domi can win duel with Sentinel/Inqui ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarsss View Post
    If mage is so strong 1vs1 he is also too strong in group. It is logical.
    It actually isn't logical-- there are a lot of abilities that are EXTREMELY powerful in duels that end up being much weaker in group fights.

    Stuns are a good example. In a 1v1, using a stun gives you 3-5 seconds of free DPS on an enemy. In a teamfight, it simply takes one enemy out of the picture-- which is still good, don't get me wrong, but it's not even remotely the same thing.

    And that's far from the only case of something like that. Tanky DPS builds like NB/RS tend to excel in duels because they last longer without heals and you can simply outlast an opponent that also will not have a healer, but in a warfront with actual healers, your damage will be too low to kill anyone and the extra survivability doesn't help all that much, so the end result is that the enemy team just ignores you as you flail away uselessly at targets.

    Conversely, there are a lot of abilities and souls that are absolutely horrible at 1v1 but end up being quite good in warfronts. Dominator is a good example, but even healers can fall into this category.
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