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    Hey all,

    I was going through Rift Nexus and Telarapedia and was looking through the slew of YouTube vids. I came to a strange crossroads (If you're planning on role'ing a Cleric maybe you can put in your 2 cents - if not your 2 cents is still valid).


    I kind of want to create a Melee oriented cleric. You know I was originally thinking:

    Sent
    Ward
    Just

    But after thinking it over perhaps:

    Ward
    Just
    Sham

    This seems the most Melee oriented and I get a good deal of HoT so I can keep the pressure on my enemies. But at the same time I'm speculated as I've spent no time playing the game. I understand the levels to which I would get the souls so I figured I'd start off playing a Warden (If that's a viable option for launch day) and make my way towards Shaman. I'd really like to play a Cleric who can do melee combos and stand strong in battle.

    I'm not dumb enough to expect a tank or DPS machine from a Cleric but what do you think? Is Trion going to give us a cleric that would work well in a solo battle or small group to the degree where instead of standing still and buffing/healing I can toss out a heal and then mash a goblin in the face with a mace for a little while before I fall back and heal again? I'd love to do more in battle than heal and buff wait wait heal wait wait buff and then rinse and repeat. I understand that some might say, "But thats what you're for." I understand the whole role thing but I'd just really like to set out on my own (I'll be playing with 2 other dedicated players all the time actually) and punch some stuff in the face with fairly cool melee combos and weapons. I don't want to be a tank nor out dmg other classes but I love Clerics that can handle themselves.

    Discuss?
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    In EQ the main roll of healer was healer/buffer. After playing other games I learned just how great it was to be in this role. (I enjoyed healing classes in other games too.) I did like how eq had each class do specific jobs... tank was a tank, healer was a healer etc etc.. i do realized games have evolved and had to cater to all sorts of players and make each classes a bit more versitile. If your looking for DPS, then play a DPS class. Don't play a class that the main job is healer, then get mad when they are not burning **** up!

    The idea of an MMO is playing with other, even if that means the dreaded PUG! EEK!

    I went back to eq1 ( i think everyone does <smiles> ) and wow it was great to be the healer! I didn't hafta compete with other HOT healers or spot healers.. ( yes i know eq had back up healers ) People lived or died depending on how much i was paying attention or how buzzed i was that night <grin>

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    I think inquisitor, purifier and sentinel are the 3 starting souls for clerics. (for now of course everything is subject to change)

    That isn't to say that at some point you will be able to switch to your 3 desired souls. Its just that noone outside of Trion knows when.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fangGWJ View Post
    I think inquisitor, purifier and sentinel are the 3 starting souls for clerics. (for now of course everything is subject to change)

    That isn't to say that at some point you will be able to switch to your 3 desired souls. Its just that noone outside of Trion knows when.
    this is definitely true as of right now. I'm going to agree with you OP.. Justicar/Shaman/Warden for my melee dps build but mine will only be for solo stuff and as much as I like playing melee in my off time I might not choose this build. It's all according to my raiding builds first and foremost then my solo PvE builds.. then maybe a PVP build but that will only happen if I have a free loadout. Planning on maximizing raid output before considering anything else.
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    Shagroth sounds like you have thought it though. Its your build and the way you want to play it.

    If someone doesn't like it tuff. Its not like we can't change it when we aren't in combat.

    As for my healer alt I am going to go with Sent-Pur-Just. I want some more dps then what the other two souls will provide but I am wantting to keep it more of a group/raid friendly healer What I am looking for is an exstreamly defensive healer with a hint more Dps then just a max sent build.

    I want the Sent for its plate armor/abilites. As for the Puri Its for the Damage shields and curitive/abilites. with the Just bringing in the DPS bit and a few buffs.

    Just my .02 on the healer deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    Shagroth sounds like you have thought it though. Its your build and the way you want to play it.

    If someone doesn't like it tuff. Its not like we can't change it when we aren't in combat.

    As for my healer alt I am going to go with Sent-Pur-Just. I want some more dps then what the other two souls will provide but I am wantting to keep it more of a group/raid friendly healer What I am looking for is an exstreamly defensive healer with a hint more Dps then just a max sent build.

    I want the Sent for its plate armor/abilites. As for the Puri Its for the Damage shields and curitive/abilites. with the Just bringing in the DPS bit and a few buffs.

    Just my .02 on the healer deal.

    Nemesis
    And your 2 cents is not only very kind but thought provoking. You're right I shouldn't care what others feel but in such a social forum that these MMOs are, isn't hard at times not to care what others think? The role I play here is more for solo'ing but aslo because I've played so many pure healing classes that I do start to grow a little bored. In this area I'm looking to see how Rift's cleric community is coming along whether it be class info or simply other players who want to heal that might want to do a little something else as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exclusive View Post
    this is definitely true as of right now. I'm going to agree with you OP.. Justicar/Shaman/Warden for my melee dps build but mine will only be for solo stuff and as much as I like playing melee in my off time I might not choose this build. It's all according to my raiding builds first and foremost then my solo PvE builds.. then maybe a PVP build but that will only happen if I have a free loadout. Planning on maximizing raid output before considering anything else.
    The idea of having multiple builds did make me think this idea was a little silly mainly because during end game I could have my pure healing soul build, my melee pvp build, my ridiculous buffing build, and lastly my "hey that might be awesome" trial build.

    Quote Originally Posted by fangGWJ View Post
    I think inquisitor, purifier and sentinel are the 3 starting souls for clerics. (for now of course everything is subject to change)

    That isn't to say that at some point you will be able to switch to your 3 desired souls. Its just that noone outside of Trion knows when.
    I believe Trion stated that you will have 4 builds of 3 souls by end game - so I don't know how they're going to handle it but it seems like they definitely want people to be able to experience an ENTIRE class in one play through with every single soul being able to be tried out and mastered to a degree - to that end I feel Trion is going about classes a bit wrong as I would not allow anyone to switch their soul spec out anytime they want to, it just seems like there would be no place for Alts.
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    Even if they didn't give you 4 Roles to swap between, you could do this via respec.

    Alts will be needed to experience other races or callings, but probably not for soul builds unless you have RP reasons, or don't want to pay respec fees and require more than 4 builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilith View Post
    Even if they didn't give you 4 Roles to swap between, you could do this via respec.

    Alts will be needed to experience other races or callings, but probably not for soul builds unless you have RP reasons, or don't want to pay respec fees and require more than 4 builds.
    You're right but in the same sense, Respecing is much more time consuming and usually used for fixing mistakes. I don't believe in respecing either but in this day and age could you imagine the horror if someone told you that you were stuck with your decisions?

    The issue with the builds that worries me is more to the degree that if I am a cleric than I really won't ever need to have a cleric alt. I will just use my 4 builds to adjust my cleric.

    My alts will fall into Rogue, Warrior, and Mage but beyond that nothing else. I suppose that is the pitfall of the system that worries me. You're right in what you say about RP reasons and whatnot but I do enjoy having the chance to try out new classes maybe the idea of being able to try out those new classes while still playing the same calling is just something I've never experienced and because of it I'm at a loss on what to expect. You've given me a bit to think about - thank you.
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    I like the idea of a viable melee healer too. Without more details it seems a bit early to be able to really figure this stuff out though. Any character builders up and running yet?

    I've never really thought of healers competing in a group as the different types frequently complement each other and it's always nice to have backup when things get crazy. The concern I have is if the intent is to have just one healer in a group, is a melee healer going to have have enough healing power for grouping/raiding when the going gets rough? Or are they going to get kicked to the curb for a "pure healer" when the time comes?

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    Shagroth I like your build, and the other one someone posted with the purifier. Shaman does have some direct melee skills, with increased damage coming of way of elemental weapon buff it seems.

    Something I was curious about though, would having the mana regen from multiple souls stack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexterm View Post

    Something I was curious about though, would having the mana regen from multiple souls stack?
    At this point in time I believe it will. Since there are multiple souls with mana regen to put points into it should be able to stack to a degree. I believe in most games the buffing will stack to a percent of your level for instance:

    At level 10 you can have 25% mana regen thus you can stack 5 buffs of mana regen to hit 25% but having 6 buffs will still hold it at 25% until further leveling.

    While I am greatly speculating on how Trion will do it, it makes sense that they would allow such things. In the even they do not they are limiting what souls we could link together - to another degree.
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    yep,

    the biggest problem with shared choices is to not have them overlap, and if they do to let it be.

    If you wantr to drop your endline abilities to have more opportunities in other fields then your specialisation...it must be worth it.

    then again, I want to go for a full healer spec....so I hope the endline is worth not taking 2 other roads as well

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    My first thought for a cleric spec is purifier/just/sham. I want the dps boosts from the just and sham plus the ward heals from pur seem like they will be potent. I hadn't heard about sent being the only ones that can wear plate as a cleric though...is that true? And I personally see no problem boosting and doing your own DPS as long as you keep the group up. Healing comes first and if it isn't needed or not as much do what you can to boost the group DPS and do a bit yourself.

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    inquisitor/purifier or inquisitor/druid sound good to me

    though i will admit that the only cleric soul that doesn't interest me is the sentinel.

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