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    Default Viable end game builds specs how many?

    I have heard it said since Beta that there are only 1-2 viable end game build specs, giving us about 6 usable “classes” with which to play Rift at level 50. I think that the real number is much higher and I would like the communities help in finding the real number.
    I would like everyone to list the general build spec that they use to play the end game of Rift, “end game” being defined as the hardest T2 dungeons, the instance raids, raid rifts and the highest rank PvP warfronts. What builds do you and your friends actually use to play the end game of Rift. Not what you THINK will work or what you have heard someone else you don’t play with use, but what are you and your buddies actually playing that really works.
    I will be lumping all of the similar builds together into one general build, for example I will consider all of the 51 pt Bard builds the same general build “class” even though there are several minor variations for the remaining 15 points of this build.
    I will group them the way that Trion has listed the callings and roles on their own web site. There are 4 callings and 4 “roles”. Each calling fills three roles, a primary, a secondary and a single tertiary. So for each build spec, please list the calling/role that it fits under.
    Thank you for your help,

    Viable end-game build specs:
    Warrior
    Tank
    DPS
    Util

    Cleric
    Heal
    DPS
    Tank

    Rogue
    DPS
    Util
    Tank

    Mage
    DPS
    Util
    Heal
    Last edited by dbmoreland; 06-21-2011 at 10:07 AM.

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    I, as a rogue, currently have all 5 souls used for raiding specs (and I use all of them in my guild's runs of RoS, GS and GP).

    Melee dps

    Ranged dps

    Avoidance/Off-tank

    Mitigation/Main Tank

    Maximum AoE healing bard


    I use the melee dps as my primary role and ranged dps when necessary. I use the mitigation spec to tank magic heavy bosses like Uruluuk and Oracle Aleria, and the avoidance spec to off-tank adds on Prince Hylas. The healing bard spec is used to solo-heal T2 dungeons, on the RoS idols, and if I happen to be barding Prince Hylas.

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    Warrior tanks have 4 raid capable builds suited to different encounters and 1 build specific to greenscale plants.

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    Ok we have 12 Build specs already and I still need to hear from half of the callings.
    Can I get a responce from an "end game" cleric and mage please.
    Thanks

    Viable end-game build specs:
    Warrior
    . Tank
    .. 51VK/Pal/War
    .. 25VK/Reav/Pal
    .. 38Reav/Pal/War
    .. 33War/Reav/Pal
    .. 32War/VK/Pal
    .. 32Pal/War/Par
    . DPS
    . Util

    Cleric
    Heal
    DPS
    Tank

    Rogue
    . DPS
    .. 44Sab/Sin/Rng
    .. 32BD/Sin/NB
    .. 31Rng/MM/Sin
    . Tank
    .. 34RS/BD/Bard
    .. 51RS/Rng/Bard
    . Util
    .. 51Bard/Sin/BD

    Mage
    . DPS
    . Util
    . Heal
    Last edited by dbmoreland; 06-22-2011 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreun View Post
    I, as a rogue, currently have all 5 souls used for raiding specs (and I use all of them in my guild's runs of RoS, GS and GP).

    Melee dps

    Ranged dps

    Avoidance/Off-tank

    Mitigation/Main Tank

    Maximum AoE healing bard


    I use the melee dps as my primary role and ranged dps when necessary. I use the mitigation spec to tank magic heavy bosses like Uruluuk and Oracle Aleria, and the avoidance spec to off-tank adds on Prince Hylas. The healing bard spec is used to solo-heal T2 dungeons, on the RoS idols, and if I happen to be barding Prince Hylas.
    Would love to the know the rotation of the bard if possible

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    Default Cleric

    Cleric healing builds:

    Shamicar
    Inquisicar
    Senticar
    51 Warden specs
    32/32 pur/sen
    51 purifier

    Cleric dps builds
    31 druid, 24 shaman, 11 inquisitor (no other cleric build will out-dps this)

    Cleric tanking builds
    Anything >38 Justicar with >7 shaman (Radak's tanking guide has specifics, http://forums.riftgame.com/showthrea...uide-Version-2 )
    Last edited by Valdis43; 06-22-2011 at 05:02 AM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfeathery View Post
    Would love to the know the rotation of the bard if possible
    I have a similar Bard build made and my rotation is...
    Macro all 5 of your useful Motifs into a keyboard (or some other macro-capable device/program) in this order:
    Grandeur -> Tenacity -> Regeneration -> Focus -> Bravery

    Rotation:
    As soon as it's safe to pop HOTs use your Motif Macro (If you don't have a macro set up simply pop each motif one by one)

    If you aren't debuffing:
    Riff -> Deadly Strike -> Cadence -> Cadence -> Cadence
    Deadly Strike -> Cadence -> Cadence -> Cadence (Repeat this over and over)

    If you are debuffing:
    Riff -> Deadly Strike -> Cadence -> Coda of Distress -> Cadence -> Cadence
    Deadly Strike -> Cadence ->Coda of Cowardice/Coda of Distress -> Cadence -> Cadence (Repeat this over and over, switching debuffs use as the timers for each one. Remember to not use the debuff if there's one already up. This will lead to a DPS and healing loss)

    When **** hits the fan:
    Riff -> Virtuoso -> Coda of Restoration (Spam this until Virtuoso ends)

    *Make sure to pop your motifs as they're about to run out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdis43 View Post
    Cleric healing builds:

    Shamicar
    Inquisicar
    Senticar
    51 Warden specs
    32/32 pur/sen
    51 purifier

    Cleric dps builds
    31 druid, 24 shaman, 11 inquisitor (no other cleric build will out-dps this)

    Cleric tanking builds
    Anything >38 Justicar with >7 shaman (Radak's tanking guide has specifics, http://forums.riftgame.com/showthrea...uide-Version-2 )
    Could you please list an example of the first three (Shamicar, Inquisicar, Senticar). I do not play a cleric and do not fully understand what you are talking about other than they are a combiniation of something with Justicar. Also be sure that they are something that you or your friends are actually using, not just something you heard someone is using.

    I would still like to hear from an "end game" Mage on what build specs they are using please. And I would not mind hearing from a few others as well. I am sure there are a couple more viable builds that people are using to play Rift at lvl 50 that are working very well for them, please let me hear from you too.
    Thanks

    Viable end-game build specs:

    Warrior
    . Tank
    .. 51VK/Pal/War
    .. 25VK/Reav/Pal
    .. 38Reav/Pal/War
    .. 33War/Reav/Pal
    .. 32War/VK/Pal
    .. 32Pal/War/Par
    . DPS
    . Util

    Cleric
    . Heal
    .. 32Pur/32Sen/xxx
    . DPS
    .. 31Dru/Sha/Inq
    . Tank
    .. 51Jus/Sha/xxx

    Rogue
    . DPS
    .. 44Sab/Sin/Rng
    .. 32BD/Sin/NB
    .. 31Rng/MM/Sin
    . Tank
    .. 34RS/BD/Bard
    .. 51RS/Rng/Bard
    . Util
    .. 51Bard/Sin/BD

    Mage
    . DPS
    . Util
    . Heal
    Last edited by dbmoreland; 06-23-2011 at 04:30 AM.

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    I've tested all of them (except Warden, which others in my guild use). I still prefer Sen/Pur and Inq/Jus, but they all work. There is a lot of variety, but the core of each is....

    Heals
    51 Warden/15 Sentinel/x
    32+ Inq/10+ Jus/x (Inquisicar)
    21+ Sha/10+ Jus/x (Shamicar)
    31+ Jus/32+ Sen/x (Senticar)
    32+ Sen/32+ Pur/x

    The purifier build I've seen less often, but I believe its 51 Pur/15 Sen.

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    I still need some more help with this list although it is clear to me that there are far more than just 1-2 viable end game build specs for each callling, my guess at this point is 6-8. So while not every soul has a viable 51 pt end game build, there are some 51 pt builds and almost every soul has a build that is based around it even if it does not use all 51 pts available to it.
    Could I please hear from at least 1 "end-game" mage (or someone who plays with one) and have them share the build spec(s) that they are using to play Rift at level 50?
    Thanks again for your help.

    Viable end-game build specs:

    Warrior
    . Tank
    .. 51VK/Pal/War
    .. 25VK/Reav/Pal
    .. 38Reav/Pal/War
    .. 33War/Reav/Pal
    .. 32War/VK/Pal
    .. 32Pal/War/Par
    . DPS
    . Util

    Cleric
    . Heal
    .. 51War/Sen/Pur
    .. 32Pur/32Sen/War
    .. 44Sen/Jus/War
    . DPS
    .. 31Dru/Sha/Inq
    . Tank
    .. 51Jus/Sha/Sen

    Rogue
    . DPS
    .. 44Sab/Sin/Rng
    .. 32BD/Sin/NB
    .. 31Rng/MM/Sin
    . Tank
    .. 34RS/BD/Bard
    .. 51RS/Rng/Bard
    . Util
    .. 51Bard/Sin/BD

    Mage
    . DPS
    .. ##Pyr/xxx/xxx
    .. ##War/xxx/xxx
    . Util
    .. ##Arc/xxx/xxx
    . Heal
    .. ##Chl/xxx/xxx

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    Ok one last time, are there any Mage builds that anyone is using to play the end game of Rift that anyone wants to share? I would love to hear from at least one more from the other callings as well as three people do not exactly make a great sample for determining a reasonable list of viable builds.
    Thanks

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    Viable end-game build specs:
    Warrior
    Tank
    DPS
    Util

    Cleric
    Heal
    DPS
    Tank

    Rogue
    DPS
    Util
    Tank

    Mage
    Util
    Heal

    Fixed for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbmoreland View Post
    Ok one last time, are there any Mage builds that anyone is using to play the end game of Rift that anyone wants to share? I would love to hear from at least one more from the other callings as well as three people do not exactly make a great sample for determining a reasonable list of viable builds. Thanks
    Well, the two obvious ones are archon and chloro:
    51 Archon / 15 Warlock / 0 Dom (survivable build, with mez ability)
    51 Archon / 9 Pyro / 6 Elem (or similar, focus on more fire damage for burning purpose procs)

    51 Chloro / 10 Dom / 5 Ele (single target healer focus)
    3x Chloro / 3x Warlock / whatever (AE healing focus with more damage)

    DPS builds? Well, they're kind of in a state of flux right now. The SC/Elem hybrid still seems to be best, but others are catching up, will probably take a few days before a new set of "viable" specs is generally accepted (at least, it looks like mages now have several possible viable specs available).
    Last edited by Sarim; 06-28-2011 at 10:16 PM.

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    Well, my cleric has a Sentinel PvE healing spec, a Druid DPS spec, and a Purifier PvP healing spec. I could also have a Justicar/Templar spec, Inquisicar (possibly), that wonky Shaman/Sentinel/??? thing, and I could have a tank spec.

    >.> That's a lot more than 1-2 viable specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdis43 View Post
    I've tested all of them (except Warden, which others in my guild use). I still prefer Sen/Pur and Inq/Jus, but they all work. There is a lot of variety, but the core of each is....

    Heals
    51 Warden/15 Sentinel/x
    32+ Inq/10+ Jus/x (Inquisicar)
    21+ Sha/10+ Jus/x (Shamicar)
    31+ Jus/32+ Sen/x (Senticar)
    32+ Sen/32+ Pur/x

    The purifier build I've seen less often, but I believe its 51 Pur/15 Sen.
    If doing pve, Iquisicar us this:
    39 Inq, 16 Just, 11 Cab
    wut

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