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    Default How to fix the classes in rift

    Who can queue for what:

    Tank : Warrior, rogue
    Healer: mage, cleric
    Dps: all
    Support: all

    Remove taunts from the justicar
    Nerf chloro dps
    Nerf MM purge
    Increase warrior res range
    Improve cleric dps viability
    Make skills work differently in PvE than in PvP

    problem solved, kthxbai

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    Aside from the fact that your idea aren't any good.

    I love how you use vague terms like nerf and improve, as if the difficult part of balance wasn't in the exact numbers.

    Balance always looks easy when you gloss over the difficult parts.
    Maybe he just wanted to steal our wire cutters. You ever think of that?

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    a bit hypocritical to complain about my idea without any explanation, no?

    bringing cleric down to three roles makes them more in line with everyone else
    Rogue purge is totally OP
    Nerfing chloro dps bringss them in line with clerics
    Improved warrior ress brings them in line with everyone
    Cleric dps sucks

    I leave numbers up to the devs and number crrunchers, because they are good at it.

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    /vote worst.thread.of.the.month
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiHeilos View Post
    a bit hypocritical to complain about my idea without any explanation, no?

    bringing cleric down to three roles makes them more in line with everyone else
    Rogue purge is totally OP
    Nerfing chloro dps bringss them in line with clerics
    Improved warrior ress brings them in line with everyone
    Cleric dps sucks

    I leave numbers up to the devs and number crrunchers, because they are good at it.
    Explanation? You can't just make Justicar not a tank post release. It's too late it has to stay a tank.
    Just because you don't play one doesn't mean others don't. You can just tell them that all their playtime and gear is now useless because "Forum Dev#468" decided Clerics shouldn't be tanks.

    And if Trion is good at number crunches than why does Chloro and Cleric dps need to change, they are the ones who came up with the according to you bad dps numbers.

    Sack up and put out your own numbers. Balance isn't in "U shud nerf Rouges!" it's in the amount.
    Maybe he just wanted to steal our wire cutters. You ever think of that?

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    instead of messing up everything, why dont they just add support soul to warriors, then all callings will be as "balanced\op\nerfed\buffed"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiHeilos View Post
    I leave numbers up to the devs and number crrunchers, because they are good at it.
    Admit you didn't solve any problems then.
    It's hilarious that you think chloros needs to be nerfed to be in line with clerics. I would bet you didn't PvP, except you complain about MM purge.

    Leave class balance to devs, because they are good at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiHeilos View Post
    Rogue purge is totally OP
    Nerfing chloro dps bringss them in line with clerics
    I doubt eradicate will get changed until something is done about cleric survivability in pvp. Eradicate seems to have been created by the Devs to specifically counter clerics. If they did not like how it worked, I highly doubt it would have made it past the planning stage.

    Nerfing Chloro dps will also nerf their healing. I do not claim to understand the soul, but the patch notes does seem to indicated Chloro healing will get nerfed from 50% damage done to 30% damage done in 1.3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debiru82 View Post
    instead of messing up everything, why dont they just add support soul to warriors, then all callings will be as "balanced\op\nerfed\buffed"?
    Cleric will still be the only calling with four roles, they need to stop trying to tank and realise they suck at it.

    Rogue purge is still OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiHeilos View Post
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    bringing cleric down to three roles makes them more in line with everyone else
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    Clerics only have 3 roles. The official roles are:
    Warriors: tank, dps
    Rogues: tank, dps, support
    Clerics: tank, dps, heal
    Mages: dps, heal, support

    Bard and archon are the only official support souls (souls whose primary job is to buff the dps of others). Warlord is a tank (even though they get some support-type skills) and clerics are rather lacking in group dps buffs.

    The reason everyone can queue for support it because it's a crappy system that require someone select support even if there's no need for a support role. If only bards and archons could queue for support it would be significantly harder to form a group as most groups would be waiting on someone with a bard or archon role to join.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiHeilos View Post
    How to fix the classes in rift
    Give Clerics the option of rolling as a raid boss.

    This will balance both PVE and PVP at the same time.

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    Last I checked tanks were rather in demand. Removing a tanking class is a horrible idea. I would still be playing my cleric, and there would be 1 less tank in the world.

    Not that that would ever, ever happen because it is completely ridiculous. I am actually astounded at how ridiculous your idea is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiHeilos View Post
    a bit hypocritical to complain about my idea without any explanation, no?

    bringing cleric down to three roles makes them more in line with everyone else
    Rogue purge is totally OP
    Nerfing chloro dps bringss them in line with clerics
    Improved warrior ress brings them in line with everyone
    Cleric dps sucks

    I leave numbers up to the devs and number crrunchers, because they are good at it.

    Clerics really only have 3 roles, there is no true support role for clerics like there is with mages(archon) and rogues(bards).

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