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    I think I speak for far more players than you'd like, Trion, when I say this:

    If the 1.3 alpha notes don't say, "Most of our entire class balance team has been replaced" ~OR~ "We're reverting all changes sans bug fixes since 1.0 and trying again" there will be a lot of subs dropping.

    I was going to try a cleric, but I don't want to deal with the MM purge spam destroying my viability. I was going to try Dominator, but no, my squirrel is worthless now. I was going to try rogue... well, that might actually be worth a shot (I'd be going melee, too). But for all intents and purposes my Beastmaster is shelved until I don't need SLI as a crutch which is a crying shame because he was my main. My alts aren't even in double digit levels yet and my BM is level 46, has been since the 1.2 notes were posted.

    Stop destroying a good game with bad balance. This is ridiculous.
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    From what I've seen over the past two nights, overall balance is better and Warfronts are more competitive. Yes, that is coming from a Rogue (non-MM) perspective, but it is true enough from what I have experienced. I understand that it effectively amounts to a nasty nerf for some soul combinations in the overall balance scheme, but ultimately I believe the game is flexible enough to accommodate this with other strategies and builds.

    Yes, players will need to adjust. That's happened to Rogues with each patch too. In beta, MM damage was great...then it was nerfed. In 1.0, Sab's were blowing sh*t up...then they were nerfed. The point is that people have to adjust. Try other souls. I am fairly certain that there are combos out there for each Calling that can prove to be highly effective in 1.2. You just need to give the game and players some time to find them.

    Wait a week or two before calling for nerfs. You may find that they're really not needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deioth View Post
    I think I speak for far more players than you'd like, Trion, when I say this:

    If the 1.3 alpha notes don't say, "Most of our entire class balance team has been replaced" ~OR~ "We're reverting all changes sans bug fixes since 1.0 and trying again" there will be a lot of subs dropping.

    I was going to try a cleric, but I don't want to deal with the MM purge spam destroying my viability. I was going to try Dominator, but no, my squirrel is worthless now. I was going to try rogue... well, that might actually be worth a shot (I'd be going melee, too). But for all intents and purposes my Beastmaster is shelved until I don't need SLI as a crutch which is a crying shame because he was my main. My alts aren't even in double digit levels yet and my BM is level 46, has been since the 1.2 notes were posted.

    Stop destroying a good game with bad balance. This is ridiculous.

    do yourself a favor and stop reading the forums

    get to 50 first and actually experience the game for yourself and you might find that its not as bad as it seems. don't let forums whiners and scary patch notes stop you from playing a class

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    the biggest thing that needs addressing is actual questing content...

    not quests that go like this " talk to such and such, go farm planarite for a week or golden eggshells for days"

    /yawn to trions development.

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    I think a lot of people need to remember that in MMOs changes are going to happen. If something is broken it will eventually be fixed. If a class is way OP give it a couple patches and it's fixed. If something they "fix" breaks something else, expect it to change. MMOs are very dynamic. What's OP today will not be OP forever...

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    The problem is the darkness - no 'vision' explained so players are left wondering if this change really makes any sense or not.
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    Well, I play a Chloromancer, a class that is virtually useless in PvP at this point and has never had any reason to have 51 points invested since it performs better in its primary function as a hybrid than as a specialist.

    So, for me it's a definite "Either it gets fixed or I look for a game" at this point. Even if overall balance is better, if my favourite class has to be the sacrificial lamb for a slight balance improvement I'm just not paying anymore. That isn't a threat either, just me saying "If i'm not having fun I'm not paying for it", and Chloromancer was relatively weak in PvP before, and then they nerf it to hell and back for no reason, when really it should have gotten a buff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebethil View Post
    Well, I play a Chloromancer, a class that is virtually useless in PvP at this point and has never had any reason to have 51 points invested since it performs better in its primary function as a hybrid than as a specialist.

    So, for me it's a definite "Either it gets fixed or I look for a game" at this point. Even if overall balance is better, if my favourite class has to be the sacrificial lamb for a slight balance improvement I'm just not paying anymore. That isn't a threat either, just me saying "If i'm not having fun I'm not paying for it", and Chloromancer was relatively weak in PvP before, and then they nerf it to hell and back for no reason, when really it should have gotten a buff...

    so do what thousands of rogues have done prior to the 1.2 patch.. they got sick of gettin gtheir ***** handed to them by every other class and they quit the game..

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    the next thing that needs to be done, and first and foremost is trion needs to merge servers or this game is going to fail worse than it already has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deioth View Post
    I think I speak for far more players than you'd like, Trion, when I say this:

    If the 1.3 alpha notes don't say, "Most of our entire class balance team has been replaced" ~OR~ "We're reverting all changes sans bug fixes since 1.0 and trying again" there will be a lot of subs dropping.

    I was going to try a cleric, but I don't want to deal with the MM purge spam destroying my viability. I was going to try Dominator, but no, my squirrel is worthless now. I was going to try rogue... well, that might actually be worth a shot (I'd be going melee, too). But for all intents and purposes my Beastmaster is shelved until I don't need SLI as a crutch which is a crying shame because he was my main. My alts aren't even in double digit levels yet and my BM is level 46, has been since the 1.2 notes were posted.

    Stop destroying a good game with bad balance. This is ridiculous.
    Another theory QQ. I'm getting tired of people thinking themselves into a fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deioth View Post
    I think I speak for far more players than you'd like, Trion, when I say this:

    If the 1.3 alpha notes don't say, "Most of our entire class balance team has been replaced" ~OR~ "We're reverting all changes sans bug fixes since 1.0 and trying again" there will be a lot of subs dropping.

    I was going to try a cleric, but I don't want to deal with the MM purge spam destroying my viability. I was going to try Dominator, but no, my squirrel is worthless now. I was going to try rogue... well, that might actually be worth a shot (I'd be going melee, too). But for all intents and purposes my Beastmaster is shelved until I don't need SLI as a crutch which is a crying shame because he was my main. My alts aren't even in double digit levels yet and my BM is level 46, has been since the 1.2 notes were posted.

    Stop destroying a good game with bad balance. This is ridiculous.
    You're upset that you have to spend two...2...points in Paragon for an additional 48% damage?

    Man, some people are never happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indasoth View Post
    You're upset that you have to spend two...2...points in Paragon for an additional 48% damage?

    Man, some people are never happy.
    Have you ever played a game in god-mode? It gets boring being unstoppable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deioth View Post
    I was going to try a cleric, but I don't want to deal with the MM purge spam destroying my viability. I was going to try Dominator, but no, my squirrel is worthless now. I was going to try rogue... well, that might actually be worth a shot (I'd be going melee, too). But for all intents and purposes my Beastmaster is shelved until I don't need SLI as a crutch which is a crying shame because he was my main. My alts aren't even in double digit levels yet and my BM is level 46, has been since the 1.2 notes were posted.

    Stop destroying a good game with bad balance. This is ridiculous.
    Sounds to me like you're a FOTM chaser and don't like that they change anything.
    Maybe you should play a class you enjoy rather than jumping around.
    Maybe he just wanted to steal our wire cutters. You ever think of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebethil View Post
    Well, I play a Chloromancer, a class that is virtually useless in PvP at this point and has never had any reason to have 51 points invested since it performs better in its primary function as a hybrid than as a specialist.

    So, for me it's a definite "Either it gets fixed or I look for a game" at this point. Even if overall balance is better, if my favourite class has to be the sacrificial lamb for a slight balance improvement I'm just not paying anymore. That isn't a threat either, just me saying "If i'm not having fun I'm not paying for it", and Chloromancer was relatively weak in PvP before, and then they nerf it to hell and back for no reason, when really it should have gotten a buff...
    Yes the buff to MM makes it harder to be chloro, you still have pyro, SC and necro/lock to get you thru till things change. This wouldn't be much different the nthe fact the every melee rogue was a Nb last patch because it's all we really had.

    That's the nice thing about the soul system you are bound to have at least some thing to use till the soul you want to use gets fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhayn View Post
    Yes the buff to MM makes it harder to be chloro, you still have pyro, SC and necro/lock to get you thru till things change. This wouldn't be much different the nthe fact the every melee rogue was a Nb last patch because it's all we really had.

    That's the nice thing about the soul system you are bound to have at least some thing to use till the soul you want to use gets fixed.
    I think that is the best selling point of this game. If they nerf you to the point you feel like you cannot play a class anymore you switch up your souls and BAM your good again (or at least comparable). I like the fact that I can level 4 characters and play every class in the game.

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