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    Exclamation Restore a Warrior solo/grinding sustainable build

    Hello fellow players, and hope devs get to read this too.

    With your 1.1 patch you hammered warrior solo/grind sustainability ground nerfing its self heals and this made my life in grinding reps on my warrior hard and tedious (read: reducing game appealing on 1 side of gaming only).

    I would like to enjoy my dailies and my grind on my free time when i have no raid/dungeon/pvp going on, and i would like to be able of enjoying it as i enjoy it playing my other 3 chars which are from each different calling.
    Also when i play at late hours, or simply when the server is low populated, and quest hubs are overwhelmed by invasion i would like to stand a chance to fight back those invaders and talk to my NPCs without having to wear epic gear to do that on solo, since nobody is out there to help me anyhow.
    As it stand now warriors should basically need a small pocket off-healer at least to be efficient, but this is simply not always possible, and is turning worse and worse since servers are getting empty and emptier.

    So please bring back solo/grind sustainability of my war to be on-par with my other characters.
    To get an idea of what i mean please try and enjoy my other solo builds on other classes and then compare to the best solo war build that you can figure out.

    Cleric: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=00....ixd0pMsh.Vxkb
    Rogue: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0M...Vh0MRMd.tczhho
    Mage: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0z...ooM.EtckoxkAtz

    Thank you for listening and support/bump this post if you share my same concerns.
    Last edited by Neuronicercasi; 04-27-2011 at 07:04 AM.
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    32 Pal / 26 RB / 8 Para: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...g0z.EG00zsMMzz
    Sample Video Of In Action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n89zy1qPnd8

    32 Reaver / 26 RB / 8 Para: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...g0z.EG00zsMMzz
    Sample Video In Action (20 Mobs at once) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hajuvD3VNaw

    Also....

    32 Reaver / 32 Pal / 2 Para: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c....b.EL0z0ciczMz
    No video yet with that one, will do one today, performs better with more mobs then the earlier 32 Reaver one.

    Oh, this is a thread about warriors not being able to grind properly. Sorry, I'll excuse myself.
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    without having to wear epic gear
    This should be enough but.

    2) I'm running currently both Rv/RB/Pa and Rv/Pal/WL builds. No one can heal/mitigate so much to soak the damage received.
    The real problem is then down time. In your vids (are those yours btw?) you used two 2min cd abilities, you cannot use those at every fight.
    So making vids like those is what is commonly referred as "vulgar display of power"

    2) In your Reaver builds you even spent points in PoftM which is not proccing on solo...derp
    http://rift.zam.com/en/ability/50000...rom-The-Masses
    Using an area of effect ability has a 20% chance of reducing damage you take by 1% for each nearby party or raid member, to a maximum of 10% for the next 10 seconds.
    ...tho i heard it works with cosmetic companions out.

    Tip of The Blance/Balance of Power on live are both on an internal 1.5s cd ...derp

    What is the point in 2 pts in Combat Precision? Physical dps boost of ??? 0.05%?

    3) make some vid with my builds also, go on PTR, get a cleric, a mage and a rogue to 50, spec and make nice videos too. I'm not into vids, they're boring.
    Until you didn't try all callings i assume any opinion as biased.

    4) Is a thread about warriors compared to other classes, so it is in general classes forum.
    Last edited by Neuronicercasi; 04-27-2011 at 12:45 PM.
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    There's pros and cons. On my RB/Paly I can chomp through mobs must faster than a Justicar. But I cannot dive into a pack of mobs or solo an elite with the same degree of confidence. And the RB actually does better than my full tank spec because the range / dps means taking less damage. You get more mitigation for stacking 3 tank specs, but you dont get the HP back.

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    without having to wear epic gear
    So you want to grind in greens and blues at 50 and never run a tier dungeon ever? Why are you playing Rift again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neuronicercasi View Post
    1) This should be enough but.
    2) I'm running currently both Rv/RB/Pa and Rv/Pal/WL builds. No one can heal/mitigate so much to soak the damage received.
    The real problem is then down time. In your vids (are those yours btw?) you used two 2min cd abilities, you cannot use those at every fight.
    So making vids like those is what is commonly referred as "vulgar display of power"
    First vid is just standard rotation. No cooldown abilities used in that build. Second is such a large amount of mobs I used Creeping Death to get some extra health back. But then again, you want to grind without using all your abilities you have.

    2) In your Reaver builds you even spent points in PoftM which is not proccing on solo...derp
    http://rift.zam.com/en/ability/50000...rom-The-Masses
    ...tho i heard it works with cosmetic companions out.
    The intelligence of people using Herp or Derp sadden me. The points are there for when there are major/epic zone invasions and you are taking 30+ mobs at once with a group member or two. Helps a bit to keep you alive.

    Tip of The Blance/Balance of Power on live are both on an internal 1.5s cd ...derp
    Healing is Healing.

    What is the point in 2 pts in Combat Precision? Physical dps boost of ??? 0.05%?

    3) make some vid with my builds also, go on PTR, get a cleric, a mage and a rogue to 50, spec and make nice videos too. I'm not into vids, they're boring.
    Until you didn't try all callings i assume any opinion as biased.
    You were asking for Warrior Grinding. So I shot you Warrior Grinding Videos and Specs. Perhaps you are confused on what question you initially asked for. Perhaps you have short term amnesia? I should contact a physician on your behalf.

    Your post was, I shall use your terminology. "QQ Warriors can't grind mobs herp derp lolz cheezeburger". When in fact, they can. Very efficiently and easily. Because you are failing to see this is your own issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exphryl View Post
    32 Pal / 26 RB / 8 Para: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...g0z.EG00zsMMzz
    Sample Video Of In Action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n89zy1qPnd8

    32 Reaver / 26 RB / 8 Para: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...g0z.EG00zsMMzz
    Sample Video In Action (20 Mobs at once) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hajuvD3VNaw

    Also....

    32 Reaver / 32 Pal / 2 Para: http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c....b.EL0z0ciczMz
    No video yet with that one, will do one today, performs better with more mobs then the earlier 32 Reaver one.

    Oh, this is a thread about warriors not being able to grind properly. Sorry, I'll excuse myself.
    If I am not mistaken, you have posted these videos previously in some sort of proof that warriors are not gimped in aoe pulling, in those previous postings it has been pointed out that it is your gear that is getting thru those massive pulls and not the uberness of the reaver spec as much. You take someone without certain items you have equipped an show me a pull like that. It will not happen.


    It is sad that my rift/bd rogue is far far better at killing 6 - 12 mobs an being at full health than my warrior. The nerf to reavers self heals was needless as it only helped in pve an did nothing in pvp. I just stopped playing my warrior quite frankly and sticking to my rogue an cleric for aoe farming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuronicercasi View Post
    1) This should be enough but.

    2) In your Reaver builds you even spent points in PoftM which is not proccing on solo...derp
    http://rift.zam.com/en/ability/50000...rom-The-Masses
    ...tho i heard it works with cosmetic companions out.

    Use a vanity pet. derp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neuronicercasi View Post
    What is the point in 2 pts in Combat Precision? Physical dps boost of ??? 0.05%?
    Strike Like Iron.

    Derp, indeed. Though personally I'd put the points into Duality of Mind, for the extra parry, if you're going to be soloing.

    I solo/grind all the time on my beastmaster/champion/paragon build. Have almost no downtime, if I stick to 1-2 mobs at a time. Wearing just blues, with an epic axe I got from the Stillmoor puzzle. If I get finicky and want to pull 4-5 at once, I turn on Spoils of the Hunt, build up 3 points again, and do a Perfect Timing + Bladefury, 4-second-delay full heal every 90 seconds.

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    anyways this is the grinding/farming build I use

    http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0c...z.e.EM0x0cMMzz

    very similar to the 32pal/26rb/8para build listed above with a few minor differnces to my taste.


    basically the build is built around a mix of good aoe damage and survivability with no long cooldowns.

    Use a sword and board, wear tank gear, make sure lights decree and strike like iron is always up, and win.

    also,
    Once you're over geared for instances this can also double up as a trash clearing build

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    i got a warrior in greens and blues and i grind in stillmoor really easily with a reaver/rb spec.

    The video he posted he could do even better with his gears but i can take 2 pack of mathosian without having to do expert.

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    32pal/26rb/8para like many pointed out, seems to me also to be the most viable choice but, at least in my experience, is still miles and miles far from other callings possibilities.

    Before on Reaver/RB was too good, but it was mostly because of Grisly Works + the healing of SS boosted by Rift Fury and SLI (same applied to TotB/BoP for Pala/RB builds), but they just needed to tone it down a little, and not breaking all apart like they did.

    So sorry if i insist on this, but or you never had the chance to test like it works on other callings or you simply believe that what you have now is what you deserve, and thus you are satisfied with it.

    @Exphryl:
    Yeah ok, you are uber, no worry we believe, you just show this, in your full t2 gear, we love you!
    But yeah i do grind in green/blue on other callings and still playing rift, problems?
    Do you play other classes also? Show us your other uber videos please then.
    About your prognosis of short term memory amnesia:
    do this
    To get an idea of what i mean please try and enjoy my other solo builds on other classes and then compare to the best solo war build that you can figure out.
    till then, kthxbye
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    get bm+champ+para, kinship is enough healing between walking from mob to mob.
    if you want to aoe grind, then you need to get good gear, if you want to take 20 mobs at once with your green gear - not gonna happen. T1 is enough.
    This must be Gersh.
    Stop trolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aegis Fang View Post
    If I am not mistaken, you have posted these videos previously in some sort of proof that warriors are not gimped in aoe pulling, in those previous postings it has been pointed out that it is your gear that is getting thru those massive pulls and not the uberness of the reaver spec as much. You take someone without certain items you have equipped an show me a pull like that. It will not happen.


    It is sad that my rift/bd rogue is far far better at killing 6 - 12 mobs an being at full health than my warrior. The nerf to reavers self heals was needless as it only helped in pve an did nothing in pvp. I just stopped playing my warrior quite frankly and sticking to my rogue an cleric for aoe farming.
    The pulls I do with my gear would be hard for any class/spec to live through effectively.

    However

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iXaM...=youtube_gdata

    Just a simple video of crafted green, green weapon, no rings or ranged and only source of healing being spec and faesource (disregarded easy to find healing trinkets just for those packs) (Show both builds in the video)

    Still killed them relatively quickly and without fear of dying or using long cooldowns.

    What's the problem again?
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