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Thread: Why are cholros better DPS & Heals then a Bard?

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    Default Why are cholros better DPS & Heals then a Bard?

    Just seems OP to have one so far ahead in both major categories. Is there a reason why Chloros need to be better? I'm at a loss.

    I could see the rogue being better at dps while the chloro is equally better at healing...but this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josiaha View Post
    Just seems OP to have one so far ahead in both major categories. Is there a reason why Chloros need to be better? I'm at a loss.

    I could see the rogue being better at dps while the chloro is equally better at healing...but this?
    Bards and Chloromancers aren't comparable. Bards are neither healers nor DPS, they're support. You would be better off comparing Bards to Archons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caydin View Post
    Bards and Chloromancers aren't comparable. Bards are neither healers nor DPS, they're support. You would be better off comparing Bards to Archons.
    Your post is ridiculous. In a 5 man... T1 or T2...it matters. You are gimping your group for having a bard over Chloro 100% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josiaha View Post
    Your post is ridiculous. In a 5 man... T1 or T2...it matters. You are gimping your group for having a bard over Chloro 100% of the time.

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    Subjective opinion, do the math, give us why by building a objective case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josiaha View Post
    Your post is ridiculous. In a 5 man... T1 or T2...it matters. You are gimping your group for having a bard over Chloro 100% of the time.

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    Um, what? Because the buffs don't count for anything? What groups are you playing with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josiaha View Post
    Your post is ridiculous. In a 5 man... T1 or T2...it matters. You are gimping your group for having a bard over Chloro 100% of the time.

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    ...Why would you catagorize bard with chloro? They aren't in the same category.

    This would be like, You are gimping your group for having a Sab over a Paladin.
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    Bards are there for the buffs.
    If your looking for damage and heals, then Cholo would indeed be better. But that is not what Bards do best.
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    I think the real issue is that mages don't really need to spend a lot of points in chloro to be a great healer. You can go with just 32 points, leaving plenty of points leftover for archon (which is a great secondary for chloro) to still provide many of the buffs bards normally provide. If chloro's had to go 51 or some similar deep investment, there wouldn't be as much overlap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morthis View Post
    I think the real issue is that mages don't really need to spend a lot of points in chloro to be a great healer. You can go with just 32 points, leaving plenty of points leftover for archon (which is a great secondary for chloro) to still provide many of the buffs bards normally provide. If chloro's had to go 51 or some similar deep investment, there wouldn't be as much overlap.
    Yah but Arch really only shines in raids right? And Arch kind of needs to be 51 to deliver its full potential?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftrox View Post
    Yah but Arch really only shines in raids right? And Arch kind of needs to be 51 to deliver its full potential?
    It still beats bards...next

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josiaha View Post
    It still beats bards...next

    How so exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josiaha View Post
    It still beats bards...next
    u mad?... next

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riftrox View Post
    Subjective opinion, do the math, give us why by building a objective case.
    The objective case is the buffs you provide..chloros provide almost no buffs. That is your subjective case. Now we can move onto a topic that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caydin View Post
    Bards and Chloromancers aren't comparable. Bards are neither healers nor DPS, they're support. You would be better off comparing Bards to Archons.
    look in your raid window. Blue = main heals. Purple = support. Bards are not meant to be healers, chloros are. Bards are support with their buffs etc. You can't compare the two, and you shouldn't. You should compare bards to other purple colored classes.
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    as a healer i prefer to have a bard in most t2s than a chloro because good cleric+good chloro=overheals while good cleric+good bard=normal heals+ +dps +tanking for your whole party. Same thing with chloros, chloro +bard>cleric +chloro.

    in raids bards+archons are a must, both of them.

    so really cant see a valid comparison between the two.

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