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    Default 4 hits are just as bad as 1 hit

    people seems to worry about that pyro can 1 hit you.
    but even if he can kill you in 4 hits this is bad because 4 hits = 4 seconds.

    i won't mention other games but i've never seen a game where you would be dead in 4 seconds

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    Dead in 4 seconds? Sounds like most mage deaths after being stunlocked 100-0 without a healer around to give a ****.

    How many hits does it take for you to feel like it's "fair"? 8? 12? 30?
    Last edited by TheLeviathan; 04-15-2011 at 04:05 AM.
    Red ball + fulminate + really craptacular dom/pyro spec trying to hard cast transmog and pray your spell lands before some squirrel punching moron eats your controlled opp proc = +1 board warrior keeping mages from being realistically balanced in PVE or PVP. 1.0-1.2's best combo in the game. RIP FOTM Pyro rollers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodisplay View Post
    people seems to worry about that pyro can 1 hit you.
    but even if he can kill you in 4 hits this is bad because 4 hits = 4 seconds.

    i won't mention other games but i've never seen a game where you would be dead in 4 seconds
    4 Pyro hits = 6 seconds.
    But don't worry, we don't pretend you actually know what you're talking about.
    Unless you're considering Heat Weave, an ability with 2 minutes CD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlippoth View Post
    4 Pyro hits = 6 seconds.
    But don't worry, we don't pretend you actually know what you're talking about.
    Unless you're considering Heat Weave, an ability with 2 minutes CD.
    im talking about Heat Wave
    also consider some off GCD skills(inferno)
    Last edited by Nodisplay; 04-15-2011 at 04:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qlippoth View Post
    4 Pyro hits = 6 seconds.
    But don't worry, we don't pretend you actually know what you're talking about.
    Unless you're considering Heat Weave, an ability with 2 minutes CD.
    Actually, it would be 4.5 seconds, barring long cast times, as the first hit would occur at 0 seconds.

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    Pwned.

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    So again, how many hits is "fair"?
    Red ball + fulminate + really craptacular dom/pyro spec trying to hard cast transmog and pray your spell lands before some squirrel punching moron eats your controlled opp proc = +1 board warrior keeping mages from being realistically balanced in PVE or PVP. 1.0-1.2's best combo in the game. RIP FOTM Pyro rollers

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    If you listen to the latest podcast, Adam G. mentions they're going to fix the additive bonuses that make 1,2,or 3-shotting someone possible.

    Base mage damage is fine, its all the other crap that gives it its bonuses
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grixxitt View Post
    If you listen to the latest podcast, Adam G. mentions they're going to fix the additive bonuses that make 1,2,or 3-shotting someone possible.

    Base mage damage is fine, its all the other crap that gives it its bonuses
    That's what I gathered from it, yet the forums are still filled with people running around screaming that the sky is still falling.
    Red ball + fulminate + really craptacular dom/pyro spec trying to hard cast transmog and pray your spell lands before some squirrel punching moron eats your controlled opp proc = +1 board warrior keeping mages from being realistically balanced in PVE or PVP. 1.0-1.2's best combo in the game. RIP FOTM Pyro rollers

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    4 seconds? in 4 seconds with heat wave pyros can do enough damage to kill 2 players, bro...fireball spam = the apex of player skill in this game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kor Phaeron View Post
    4 seconds? in 4 seconds with heat wave pyros can do enough damage to kill 2 players, bro...fireball spam + powerball = the apex of skill in this game
    Fixed it for you.
    Red ball + fulminate + really craptacular dom/pyro spec trying to hard cast transmog and pray your spell lands before some squirrel punching moron eats your controlled opp proc = +1 board warrior keeping mages from being realistically balanced in PVE or PVP. 1.0-1.2's best combo in the game. RIP FOTM Pyro rollers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodisplay View Post
    people seems to worry about that pyro can 1 hit you.
    but even if he can kill you in 4 hits this is bad because 4 hits = 4 seconds.

    i won't mention other games but i've never seen a game where you would be dead in 4 seconds
    I'll give you 2 examples from vanilla wow.

    Night Elf hunter launches an aimed shot, multishot, auto shot from Shadowmeld. That would kill most clothies in 1 GCD since all 3 attacks hit as one. Almost a guaranteed kill and they would never see it coming.

    Rogue does a prep->ambush into a gouge, and finishes with a 5cp cold blooded evis. This was an almost guaranteed kill on Mage. Again, nothing they could do but die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchyBacon View Post
    I'll give you 2 examples from vanilla wow.

    Night Elf hunter launches an aimed shot, multishot, auto shot from Shadowmeld. That would kill most clothies in 1 GCD since all 3 attacks hit as one. Almost a guaranteed kill and they would never see it coming.

    Rogue does a prep->ambush into a gouge, and finishes with a 5cp cold blooded evis. This was an almost guaranteed kill on Mage. Again, nothing they could do but die.
    #1 - Noone cares about WoW (You aren't in Azeroth anymore)

    #2 - You're example is more of an analogy to Sab than Pyro
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    It's funny but when it was taking a Saboteur 6 seconds to kill a mage people were *****ing about how OP that was and look how the tides have turned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrunchyBacon View Post
    I'll give you 2 examples from vanilla wow.

    Night Elf hunter launches an aimed shot, multishot, auto shot from Shadowmeld. That would kill most clothies in 1 GCD since all 3 attacks hit as one. Almost a guaranteed kill and they would never see it coming.
    That was back before they normalized weapons. Hunters with very slow weapons were doing much more damage than was intended. And of course, they nerfed shadowmeld as well. Hunters have struggled to compete ever since.

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