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Thread: Let us Entertain the thought that Pyro's are balanced.

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    Default Let us Entertain the thought that Pyro's are balanced.

    Can we expect other caster's to see similar damage increases? During another future patch or something? Because no other caster has even close to what the pyro has going for it right now.
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    Clearly its easier to buff 35 souls than nerf 1
    It's not a damage meters fault you can't hit a certain dps and others similar to you can, it's the fault of your bad gear, bad spec, or bad rotation. So stop getting mad at the meters and invest some time into not being bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Talamare View Post
    Clearly its easier to buff 35 souls than nerf 1
    There are 35 caster dps souls?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skaarrj View Post
    There are 35 caster dps souls?
    you understand that rogues are so weak and you want to buff all the casters?
    we will be doomed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodisplay View Post
    you understand that rogues are so weak and you want to buff all the casters?
    we will be doomed
    Melee rogues are weak.

    And you should probably get buffed, but go find your own thread about it. This ones for casters who would like to be within a mile of Pyro burst damage.

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    i play warlock in pvp. my dots tick for 100 115 and 109.

    fireball crits for 1800 and cinder burst 2600.

    take a guess why people play pyro.

    because its the only good pvp spec
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    Funny how I see so many posts with other mage specs saying they can roll a Pyro and yet here are people saying other mage specs are far behind Pyros.

    You want burst, play Pyro or SC. You want DoTs then go Necro/lock. If you want to have massive control, then go Dom/??.

    One thing you need to stop doing is assuming every class should have burst damage or it's weak, or simply have burst damage. On my Cleric I would rather face a Pyro than pretty much any other mage soul (especially the Necrolock or Dom/anything). On my rogue it's about even up, but the Pyro is by far the easiest to kill (if you're doing it right and getting them outside of GoS).

    I'd be doing a little 'soul searching' if I was a Necro/lock and claiming how much better a Pyro is when there are a lot of posts from necro/locks claiming they cream Pyro's.

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    A high single target burst damage class is doing higher single target burst damage than a DoT based class?! QUICK! TO THE FORUMS!

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    I don't think you need buffs Skaarrj.
    Last edited by Mezkh; 04-06-2011 at 03:11 AM.

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    Pyro does pretty terrible DPS overall. If you assume good opportunity procs, wildfire procs, and heat wave you can maybe match DPS with a warlock. The burst is good for PvP though, making Pyro a niche role moreso than "balanced across the class".

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    Quote Originally Posted by vVvSugarBear View Post
    Pyro does pretty terrible DPS overall. If you assume good opportunity procs, wildfire procs, and heat wave you can maybe match DPS with a warlock. The burst is good for PvP though, making Pyro a niche role moreso than "balanced across the class".
    That argument didn't help with the Champion DPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Izithel View Post
    That argument didn't help with the Champion DPS.

    They are all procs! Luck is involved!
    what part of "my next attack will always crit!" was luck based? (for pvp)

    also, i hate hate hate the strike like iron buff they threw in, because some completely soloable elite npcs went bananas because they used that ability(which now gives a bigger buff and is off the GCD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nodisplay View Post
    you understand that rogues are so weak and you want to buff all the casters?
    we will be doomed
    You understand that rogues tear mages apart like it's nobody's business right? So do warriors? No? Play a mage and see what it's like to be 1 or 2 shot by anyone, with nearly any build, with nearly any skill level, and with just regular hits, no crits.

    The massive damage spell everyone is QQing about? Yeah, 2.5s cast time I think? Unless you have the tree nearly full and get the 10% chance to cast it instant proc... ooooooo 10% to cast it before I get my face ripped off by anybody with a weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caldern View Post
    what part of "my next attack will always crit!" was luck based? (for pvp)
    And mages get instant casts, but that is not comparable with a extra crit once in a while.
    Last edited by Izithel; 04-06-2011 at 06:13 AM.
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    http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1...0406075651.jpg

    I want this.



    Do I need to explain to the QQ'ing mages how long it takes a rogue to work up to do, a measly 1k attack?
    Last edited by Nyah; 04-06-2011 at 07:01 AM.

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