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    Default To all of you "Gershlol"ers.

    Class Balance doesn't occur from one individual, and those of you making these absolutely ridiculous claims are either extremely short sighted and have no idea what you're talking about, or are attempting to troll. Honestly the patch has been around for only a couple days with the Pyromancer being strong and you all are claiming as if this is going to last the entire game's lifespan. If only when Pyromancers get changed you would be standing their looking like ***** like you would anywhere else, but this is an internet forum.

    Your references to the Bright Wizard from the Pyromancer are amusing, especially considering no one did that to the other classes when they were ridiculously overpowered. I see the same people who were complaining about Champions and Saboteurs now whining about Pyromancers and it becomes fairly obvious that they are just trying to bring the thread into flames.

    Just know that attacking a person like Gersh is a futile move and an uninformed one. Post useful data and not baseless trash and you can help more than a thousand whine threads. The issue will be resolved shortly and crying like this just stains our playerbase.

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    I'm gona bury my head in the sand along with you and pretend the last patch wasn't a complete balancing disater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tieris View Post
    I'm gona bury my head in the sand along with you and pretend the last patch wasn't a complete balancing disater.
    Warriors still do far too much dps compared to the other classes relative to survivability. They are a bit more in line but still out on top, while they should be in 3rd place for DPS (behind mages and rogues).

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    The parallels are being drawn, mostly in jest, due to the sheer absurdity of the situation. Let's make the following same mistakes that another game made, in the same genre, with the same archtype: High survivability, high ranged dps, high aoe, high cc. All in the same ranged fire dps class. If you can't see the humor in the situation, then you never played that game during the first 3 month "Rain" of Fire.

    One would think, with all the intimate knowledge of class mechanics and balancing that a developer gained over 3yrs on said previous game, that same developer would make great efforts not to repeat previous mistakes. One would think...
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    So Hanlo is Gersh's alt?

    j/j

    But seriously when staff from a previous company are known to have no clue about class balance (even going as far as saying everything was fine and that everyone that wasn't a Bright Mage simply needed to L2p) and then the new company they are working for starts behaving in the same manner you've got to expect that their past history of incompetence will get brought up. Nerds are savage beasts at times and most have long memories. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanlo View Post
    Class Balance doesn't occur from one individual, and those of you making these absolutely ridiculous claims are either extremely short sighted and have no idea what you're talking about, or are attempting to troll. Honestly the patch has been around for only a couple days with the Pyromancer being strong and you all are claiming as if this is going to last the entire game's lifespan. If only when Pyromancers get changed you would be standing their looking like ***** like you would anywhere else, but this is an internet forum.

    Your references to the Bright Wizard from the Pyromancer are amusing, especially considering no one did that to the other classes when they were ridiculously overpowered. I see the same people who were complaining about Champions and Saboteurs now whining about Pyromancers and it becomes fairly obvious that they are just trying to bring the thread into flames.

    Just know that attacking a person like Gersh is a futile move and an uninformed one. Post useful data and not baseless trash and you can help more than a thousand whine threads. The issue will be resolved shortly and crying like this just stains our playerbase.
    Gersh is the main dev being called out afterall, he is the one supposed to be coordinating balancing.

    It's like any situation in any RL customer service grievance, you demand answers from the manager of the department, this is pretty much no difference.

    The fact of the matter does stand though, Bright Wizards in WAR were stupidly out of tune under Gersh, now Pyro's the same, wouldn't happen to be his class of choice now would it?

    http://thenoobcomic.com/index.php?pos=329 Seems the Writer of the Noob may have met Gersh as well =p

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    Idiots just needs somebody to call out.Normally it is the first person that respond on forums in WoW they put Ghostcrawler name in everything,In AoC the director was most active dev on the forums so they put his name in everything.It comes with the territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirabi View Post
    Idiots just needs somebody to call out.Normally it is the first person that respond on forums in WoW they put Ghostcrawler name in everything,In AoC the director was most active dev on the forums so they put his name in everything.It comes with the territory.
    If the person in charge of the changes isn't to blame, who is? Seriously, can you tell us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Basilius View Post
    The fact of the matter does stand though, Bright Wizards in WAR were stupidly out of tune under Gersh, now Pyro's the same
    ^this

    same as black orc and reaver healing being nerfed
    same as too much CC
    etc etc etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groobash View Post
    ^this

    same as black orc and reaver healing being nerfed
    same as too much CC
    etc etc etc....
    yep, and a quick refresher to anyones memory that might have forgotten, first we had the immolation stacking up to high hell DoT's coupled with playing with fire that would kill the healer as well as the person DoT'ed, once that got finally fixed, we got the conflag bomb BW's that could wipe out entire warbands if they had a healer and a tank using guard on them.

    And as every BW tried to claim everytime...It's fine l2p.

    It took mythic some 3 months after release to even acknowledge that BW's were imbalanced, completely missing the problematic mechanic and instead just nerfed a few skills in the immolation table meaning the majority of BW's went conflag and still could Pew Pew.

    By Problematic mechanic, I mean combustion, combustion was just a complete and utter joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zansobar View Post
    Warriors still do far too much dps compared to the other classes relative to survivability. They are a bit more in line but still out on top, while they should be in 3rd place for DPS (behind mages and rogues).
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    The problems are 5 fold.

    1. FOTM rollers are complaining about nerfs to Warrior dps and certain Warrior skills. I.E Spamspear

    2. Warriors still do more damage then they should considering they have enough other strengths.
    (great mobility, CC, HP, plate, anti-CC and self heals)

    3. Rogues are now complaining as they have realised that all our dps souls do the lowest dps of all dps souls across all classes when we should be equal or above Warriors. (Rogues have 6 dps souls)

    4. Mages got buffed without any adjusting to the pyromancer soul. (abit like what would of happened if they buffed rogues without adjusting sabs)

    5. A lot of the posters complaining don't care about class balance or pve balance. They would be perfectly happy with platemail mages shooting lightening bolts out their back sides. As its fun for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirabi View Post
    Idiots just needs somebody to call out.Normally it is the first person that respond on forums in WoW they put Ghostcrawler name in everything,In AoC the director was most active dev on the forums so they put his name in everything.It comes with the territory.
    Admittedly they were calling out the wrong dev in AoC, the person that screwed a lot of crap up in AoC was a dev going by the name of Jayde, kept putting in changes/nerfs without listening to feedback while getting arogant when challenged about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tieris View Post
    If the person in charge of the changes isn't to blame, who is? Seriously, can you tell us?
    I don't know structure of their team,All he could he could be doing is approve the changes for all we know,The actually person making actually the decisions on how class plays could easily be somebody else.In most cases if somebody is the head the have delegate responsibility to people under him.You can blame him because overall he is one who approve anything but it would be not shock if Gersh didn't code any of the changes.

    You and I are not there in the day to day so we don't know.Alot people are blaming Gersh for what is happening in the game but did Gersh design AOC because had ridiculous Fire Mage and CC issues,Did he design Aion because Aion stupid Mages and CC issues.Did design WoW because it has Stupid OP mages and CC issues.Maybe it is MMO design problem not a Dev problem.

    If you blame him for what happen in War fine not because design bad classes but Warhammer was design as pvp game and did have worry about PVE aspect on pvp as much other mmos.Rifts is not warhammer,Rift has heavy PVe influence that can't be avoided.To me Rifts has made only one huge mistake is having the pvp souls separate from the normal process instead of implementing them from the beginning.PvP tree solves much of the issues but if you can't use them what is point.

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