Unofficial RP server?
I am uncertain if this has already been addressed, as I was unable to find a thread on it so I'll take the risk of asking again.
Being a role-player, most likely on Guardian side I am rather curious about which server the role-playing community is delegating the "unofficial official RP server", ie; which server everyone is going to try to go to, in order to maximize the potential role-playing, or if this has even been decided, as of yet?
As far as I know, which admittedly is fairly little, two of the (hopefully) large, hardcore Defiant RP guilds will be calling Sunrest home. However, this is an RP-PvP server, so you'll obviously want to avoid it if PvP is not to your tastes. I've also not seen any of the larger Guardian guilds mention where they're headed, but I'm pretty sure one of them will be going to Sunrest, as well.
Hate RPers that avoid pvp rulesets, PvP server rulesets really open up so many more roleplay options, if a unoffical server is going to be discussed and braught up it should most defenatly be a RP-PvP. theres always safe zones even on PvP servers and its not like your instanced dungeon/raid is gona get ambushed when ya least expect it.
Really it seems to me that playing on a PvE Server you are going to miss out on content and opportunities to RP.
Originally Posted by Deathcus
The Death Penalty in this game is not very harsh and the newbie lands are very well protected and your Capitals are completely safe. Once you start your Dungeon Raid as has already been said you are protected as you are instanced at that point.
They opened two RP-PvP Servers during this beta but my vote would be for Sunrest.
Of course you will get ganked from time to time but that goes with the territory and so far they seemed to really have balanced my desire to RP, PvP and PvE.
Last edited by Ortherion; 01-28-2011 at 12:13 AM.
Okay, here's my deal with the PVP. I used to believe that you needed it for "true" RP. I played a long time on Twisting Nether in WoW (among other games I've played over the last decade.) And you know what I discovered? No, I'm not going to talk about gankers and qq and all that whining biz.
The fact is I work a high adrenaline job, I keep people alive during surgery. I suction their b lood, keep their airways open, and when they drop and stop breathing the surgeon stands back with his hands in the air and I push him out of the way to get my job done. I do that for a living, so I don't need to come home at night and get more adrenaline watching my back every night when I want to roleplay into someone's storyline or relax with some questing. There IS a valid way of roleplaying that does not require the thrill of death around every corner.
Some folks sit at desks all day bored and can't wait to get home and get some excitement and thrills jumping into a game and PVP. I get that. I respect that, and it's your dollar so by all means enjoy it. But I get excitement and thrills at work, so I don't need it when I get home. I want to roleplay in a more relaxing way.
You enjoy your teabag your way, and I'll take mine in a mug with splenda, kk thx.
Last edited by defafnyr; 01-28-2011 at 02:27 AM.
Euhm, they have official RP-PvE and RP-PvP servers so why would there have to be a unofficiale RP server?
Originally Posted by BearCave
Also to comment on the one who claimed you don't get the full experience from RP if you don't RP on a RP-PvP server. Thats just a pile of cow shizzle. RP doesn't mean people have to be soldiers and fighters, RP isn't only about fighting and war. I played on a RP-PvP server in Age of Conan and WoW. Both pulled more none rpers who liked to ruin RP events and take on the RPers than that it had actual RPers. When i RP i wanna enjoy my RP, i don't want to have to fight all the time just because some kids want to fight me. Also you don't walk around in nice RP outfits you walk around in your best PvP outfit because you could be attacked any moment, that ruins allot of imersion for me cause armies have soldiers each wearing a different outfit instead of a nice uniform. If you want to fight others you can always turn on pvp on a PvE server.
If you enjoy the constant treath and such thats okay, but not everyone wants to watch their back when they just want to RP outside the save walls of their cities. That doesn't make them any less of a RPer nor do they experience less of RP. They just enjoy another form of RP just like you enjoy another part of RP.
Like most Rpers, I play the game for story, exploration and to hang and enjoy immursion with friends. Frankly i find the combat sometimes fun, most times necessary and frequently annoying. To have someone come up and gank me while I am trying to drop a difficult mob is even moreso. I have trouble enough as is lol.
Lets look at it this way. Mostly RPers say live and let live unless the militant ones pipe up for a no run policy and speaking forsoothely (which is historicaly inaccurate anyway) , but PVPers get off on fighting others and the thrill of a dynamic opponent, however our biggest concern are these cowardly gankers that populate RP-PVP servers due to thier inability to function or survive on a proper one. To my mind that is griefing. If someone is rping with me and wants to fight it out, /duel is a handy exsisting way to resolve it. the arguement for open PVP is by people with the tendancy to want to attack others whenever THEY feel like it, which in my opinion requires psyciatric treatment. RPers say lets live and let live, PVPers say LOLZ and qq more etc. I ask you, which of these standings seems most reasonable?
PVP servers for PVP, and RP swrvers for RP. Nothing could be more simple but now we are FORCED to be exposed to these shinnanigans. PVP would only help RP if the people playing took responsability for thier actions and fought within the confines of the worldly laws, which is at the heart of RP. Pretend you are there and IN the world, violence AND otherwise.
To each thier own is fair enough, UNLESS it conflicts with someone elses wishes which in the real world, is convicted assault.
**steps off the soapbox for the next occupant*
yes. I agree with not needing pvp to rp
Last edited by Hambone; 01-29-2011 at 12:37 AM.
Allow me to clarify.
Originally Posted by Jorendo
What I mean by "unofficial" RP server is that generally, when a new MMO is launched, the incoming RPers will take a look at the lists of the servers and decide upon a server for in theory, all the RPers to flock to. In most cases, it ends up being a vast majority of them, to get the Role-playing community up and running as soon as possible. For example, Lord of the Rings Online has Landroval, and WoW arguably, has Moon Guard and / or Wyrmrest Accord, depending on who you ask.
Also, I tend to agree that PvP is not a requirement when it comes to role-playing and more often than not, causes more problems than it does help things and ultimately what ends up happening is that the RPers are ganked in the middle of a scene or storyline, OR all the role-playing ends up delegated / focused to a few specific, well protected locations, major cities and the such, due to said ganking. However, I will say this. To each their own, and what they want to do. I've tried roleplaying on RP-PVP servers in the past, and it is quite difficult, if not nearly impossible to get anything accomplished aside from fighting for your virtual life.
On a side note I tend to agree with Defafnyr.
My job has the potential to be a stressful environment, as I am a Corrections Officer at a state penitentiary and I am routinely around 100+ inmates.
For the desk jockeys out there, I can see where the PvP would be something to be desired. For me? Not so much. If I want excitement, all I have to do is go to my job. When I come home, I want to rest and relax.
I think he means which of the official RP servers is the server of choice? Like in EQ2 the two official RP servers were Antonia Bayle and Lucas D'Lere. The bigger population of RPers appeared to have gone to Antonia Bayle. Sometimes RP communities like to pick a favored place in order to not divide the RP community, concentrated it on one server.
The point of RPers deciding to play on a specific server ensures a comunity that offers something they all have in common. most games USED to offer a specific RP server, now they dont. Hence we put a call out to all like minded to join up on a server we will all "consider" the unofficial RP server. Randomly deciding between 3 PVP-RP servers splits up dedicated RPers who might enjoy a more congegral option.
Originally Posted by Jorendo
Considering that the RP community will always be in the minority numbers wise...
It is absolutely vital that the vast bulk of the RPers end up on the same server if you want to have a robust and thriving RP community.
The biggest problem I've seen during the release of countless other MMO's is that the RP community is divided at launch by various different factors and it then degrades the maximum potential for an awesome experience.
Need unofficial leaders in the RP community that can organize and communicate with various guilds and come to a consensus that is best for all of the RPers in question.
So right now it looks like there are 2 camps ... RP-PVE and RP-PVP.
I think its absolutely vital that all the RP-PVE minded folks end up on the same RP-PVE server and all the PVP RPers need to all end up on the same RP-PVP for best results.
I have also seen publicly announed unofficial RP servers get SWAMPED with teenage boys on Ritalin, acne, and mountain dew who think RP'ers are easy pickings or in fact enjoy griefing them and harassing them to the extent the game will let them.
Originally Posted by Brevinlokai
So it can have unintended effects.
Oh well, good luck everybody.
That....is exactly what I said.
I'm trying to figure out which server the RP community has decided to flock to.
And judging from the responses, there is a big, fat, emphatic "We're not sure." from the community.
And yes, Lilly, I tend to agree, that is why the RPers that want to actively engage in PvP need to choose an RP-PVP server to go to, and the RPers that are not that interested in said pvp, need to choose a specific RP-PVE server to go to, so that we can focus our admittedly, minority sized population to one location.