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    Default defiant cleric lore conflict

    a defiant cleric is pro-tech and anti-virgil. is that conflict with the lore? the cleric powers are granted by the gods even virgil.

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    Virgil?


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    virgil is one the gods in rift lore.

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    Diona is probably one of the best examples of a Defiant Cleric.

    She's "the" Warden, a Kelari, and a follower of Ixalou. Ixalou is one of the spirits of the land. Specifically, he is a river spirit. These spirits are sources of power for clerics, and not part of the Vigil.

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    Or you could study the various means that cleric receive power from gods, and reverse engineer it, until you can express your faith in the divine infinite as a series of equations that could be used to make a machine that did the exact same thing but could scale.



    There are also the Kelari, who don't worship gods, but make pact with spirits from the elemental fonts on their island, binding them into their services and effectively flipping the relationship a normal cleric would have with their deity. The Bahmi worship their ancestors. And the Eth revere the sun.

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    Faith does not need gods.

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    Great examples of how clerics could receive their power are Asias and Diona (who was already previously mentioned). Both received their power through spirits who are not part of the Vigil. Of course, CC's mention of the Sun Orb and other God Engines are perfectly valid explanations.

    Another fact worth mentioning is that Guardian souls were used to help give the Defiant Ascended their power in Terminus - you can see this happening in one of the offshoot rooms inside the Life Factory.

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    great responses. i never seen the lore that way before until now. great thanks

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    Also, Defiants aren't necessarily anti-Vigil. They just believed that they couldn't depend on the Vigil to solve all their problems, and explored sourcestone tech as a way to empower themselves.

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    I remember reading it somewhere saying The Eth Clerics exists by using the powers from the planes. Long ago, the Eth send some of their people to travel each plane for information and such. That explains the Ghar Stations all over Plane of Water such as Mem, Rosh, Tau, Eyn, and Prime.

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